new tools from LV

[Darrell]

Hey, check out the windsor chair tools at LV.
I found them under "What's New". Some of those
are gonna end up on my wish list!

Darrell

[Brent in Montreal]

Hi Darrell,

I think more than a few will end up here also. The pullshave looks especially interesting. And, even though I shouldn't mention it here on the quiet side, the #55 router bits are something different. I also came across an iron version of their edge plane that's not showing in the new items yet. Looks like an expensive year comming up.

[Chris in Pickering]

Brent, every year is expensive in this hobby.....
The #55 bits look appealing to me..... not considering chair making in the near future, but the pullshave does look kinda cool.

There has to be more coming.... Rob Lee mentioned that there is a tool that everyone will want, he cannot be talking about the chair tools or new Japenese chisels..can he???

[Brent in Montreal]

Hi Chris,

I would doubt it. He must have something else up his sleeve. How about it Rob, gonna let your fellow Canadians in on the secret early????

[Denis Chénard in Ottawa]

Just went to the store to put in my order for the iron edge trimming plane...

Looks like it's gonna be an expensive year ;)

DC

[ArtMulder]

I would doubt it. He must have something else up his sleeve. How about it Rob, gonna let your fellow Canadians in on the secret early????

Hmm, I saw two different possibilities when I toured the LVT factory/headquarters back at the end of July. Of course there was that other thing that was pretty interesting also. :rolleyes:

[Chris in Pickering]

Art,

Did you sign a confidentiality agreement? If not, let it out man!

[ArtMulder]

Didn't sign nothing. But I would certainly love to go visit again someday, so I think I'll just do my best to stay in their good books...

Besides, all kidding aside, I don't know what might be the "featured" new product. Great tour, though.

[Frank D.]

I'm impressed with the new offerings. I don't have any chairs planned, and I'm planning on buying a 55 so I'm pretty sure I won't get the router bits, but LV sure is starting to have a really nice lineup of hand tools.
I'm a little disappointed that they don't give more info on the Japanese chisels. I know I can trust LV but still it's nice to make an enlightened decision when you pay $50 a chisel.

[Jim Shaver, Oakville Ont.]

I have not seen the Japanese chisels either...I've asked about the maker of them, but I know they will be decent chisels regardless of who makes them.

I have a set of dt slicks by Imai so these are "less" but very useful, wonderful I am sure.

[Frank D.]

I understand that Jim, but still, I wouldn't buy without knowing. I looked at LV's Japanese bench chisels too, but went with Tasai chisels. I'll pay several times the price if I know what I'm buying.

[Brent in Montreal]

Gotta say that I agree. I too like to know what I'm buying. One thing that has bugged me with a lot of WWing catalogues is the lack of manufacturers label in the item descriptions. Often we know who makes a certain item from seeing it in stores or magazines, but other times it's a mystery in the catalogues. There must be a reason for it, but it escapes me.

[Jim Shaver, Oakville Ont.]

I understand that Jim, but still, I wouldn't buy without knowing. I looked at LV's Japanese bench chisels too, but went with Tasai chisels. I'll pay several times the price if I know what I'm buying.

I agree totally Frank! I have a new set of sword steel firmer chisels coming from Musigi Designs...sold my Two Cherries a few weeks ago, nothing like well made chisels.

Are you using a Japanese hammer for yours? If so can you tell me what weight you went with?

[Frank D.]

Hi Jim,
No hammer...I still can't get myself to use metal to strike a chisel, even though I know that's what's traditionally used on Japanese chisels. I just love my big joiner's mallet (I affectionately call it my Frankenmallet), and I've been using that with success so far. I will make another mallet when I get the chance, with some snakewood I've been saving for a while. It probably won't work better than my joiner's mallet but it'll be a little sleeker and certainly better looking!

[Hermann in Kelowna]

I asked Rob Lee about his supplier for the japanese chisels a while ago and here's what he said -

"The chisels are Kumagoro brand made by Iyori with laminated steel blades
(termed black steel by the vendor) with properties similar to that of
HSS. The Rc. hardness, per the vendor specs, is about 68 but could vary
by size. Handles are red oak with ends mushroomed over the hoops. "

Hermann

[Steve in Ayr]

I have a 3/8" on it's way to try out. I'll give you some feedback when I get it.

Steve

[Dara]

I have the half inch Japanese bevel edge chisel
for a couple months now
I'm not sure about it.
There are a couple splits, or cracks in the sides of the blade, and the ferrule seems to be coming apart. If you look at the picture it looks like one piece from tip to wooden handle. If you look at the instruction page it shows a 2 piece setup.
After using it with the Veritas cabinet makers mallet this section has come apart and looks like a crack all the way around, very rough and uneven,I can feel it sort of loose when I hit it, but when I stop and give it a twist or bend it seems ok.
I am going to Toronto this weekend so I think I will take it with me and let them have a look.
One other thing is that you can't use it by hand. The steel band around the end of the handle combined with the oak is quite sharp and uncomfortable in the palm of my hand.
I don't know a lot about the fine art of chisels but these are my thoughts

[Rob Lee]

Hi Dara -

By all means - have the chisel looked at... if there's an issue with it, we'll replace it, or refund you... whatever you like.

These chisels actually have a ferrule on them, but the ferrule and shoulder of the chisel are linished together, giving the impression that they are one piece (they are not).

With use, the wood can compress in the tapered ferrule, and the seam between pieces becomes visible!

Cheers -

Rob

[Dara]

Hi Dara -

By all means - have the chisel looked at... if there's an issue with it, we'll replace it, or refund you... whatever you like.

These chisels actually have a ferrule on them, but the ferrule and shoulder of the chisel are linished together, giving the impression that they are one piece (they are not).

With use, the wood can compress in the tapered ferrule, and the seam between pieces becomes visible!

Cheers -

Rob

that seems to be exactly what happened Rob
I was concerned at first, but when I looked at the sketch on your site I realized thats what happened
it seems ok, but I will have it looked at.
I even went back to recheck that I could use the mallet on it
I have heard you have the best service so i'm not real concerned about having a bad tool
I'll be in one of the Toronto stores this weekend to leave some money behind
lol

[Dara]

finally back from LV 590 King St W
the chisel was just fine
the little cracks I was seeing are because of manufacturing processess for Japanese chisels laminating the different steels
the ferrule was as it is supposed to be
staff was very helpfull and explained things quite well
LOML was even interested

and Yes
I did leave a pile of money behind
all that with pics in the next report

[Chris in Pickering]

I said in a earilier post that the iron edge trimming plane did not turn me on and I would rather spend the extra few buck for the bronze one.... Is it too late to have a change of heart???? after thinking about it, for $99.00 I will be putting my order in very soon!!
For $99.00 can anyone afford not to buy one????

[Edward G. Burlington]

I said in a earilier post that the iron edge trimming plane did not turn me on and I would rather spend the extra few buck for the bronze one.... Is it too late to have a change of heart???? after thinking about it, for $99.00 I will be putting my order in very soon!!
For $99.00 can anyone afford not to buy one????

PWW: After picking up a set of chair devils, chairmakers scraper (on back order), Pullshave, and two tapered tenon cutters, I am taped out till my next CPP cheque (LOL) so the new edge plane will have to wait.

E.G.

[Dara]

I said in a earilier post that the iron edge trimming plane did not turn me on and I would rather spend the extra few buck for the bronze one.... Is it too late to have a change of heart???? after thinking about it, for $99.00 I will be putting my order in very soon!!
For $99.00 can anyone afford not to buy one????


can you post a link to the exact one?

I have only been in this a short time, but i'm finding that LV is for using, and LN is for looking at (not that they aren't a good tool) but you know what I mean
If i'm spending money like that I really want it to do the best job
talking planes only here, the rest I haven't looked at close enough

[Chris in Pickering]

can you post a link to the exact one?

I have only been in this a short time, but i'm finding that LV is for using, and LN is for looking at (not that they aren't a good tool) but you know what I mean
If i'm spending money like that I really want it to do the best job
talking planes only here, the rest I haven't looked at close enough


Dara, LV makes great bench planes however I prefer the Bailey style adjust on the LN..... LN are expensive and I could not justify buying them just to look at.... They are amazing performers, even for some as inexperienced as me....

[Frank D.]

In my opinion, LV is ahead of the game in bevel-up planes and shoulder planes, LN in bench planes and block planes. And I'm talking about planes meant to be used...for me the eye candy would be Holtey.

[Dara]

In my opinion, LV is ahead of the game in bevel-up planes and shoulder planes, LN in bench planes and block planes. And I'm talking about planes meant to be used...for me the eye candy would be Holtey.

block planes too?
darn
I just bought the LV LA Block this weekend

oh well

I have lots of shelf space

[Frank D.]

Don't worry about it Dara,
The good news is that neither company makes bad tools!

[Chris in Pickering]

I think Frank hit the nail dead center..... I have the LV bevel up series, smoother, jack and jointer..... Had the LN bevel up jack and sold it.
I have the LN 4 and 4 1/2, and would like the 3 and 5 to round out my collection.