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Vlad
02-20-2002, 09:28 AM
Recently I've noticed that this group is starting to delve deeper into using hand tools and I thought I'd share some findings about my recent acquisition.

This is a block plane I have been intrigued by for quite a while. Partly because it doesn’t follow the traditional Stanley patent; partly because it looks really sharp and mostly because it’s made with modern materials (A2 tool steel and ductile iron) and modern processes (ground flat). I hadn’t bought it initially because I had always had several of the Stanley and Millers Falls block planes. However, neither was a low angle version. I was quite satisfied with these products (especially the
9 ½) and therefore couldn’t justify the added expense of purchasing the Veritas.

I received the Veritas from the LOML (Brenda) for Valentine’s Day. It was well packed in it’s own carton along with some detailed instructions on how to care for the tool, how to use it and how to sharpen it. I’m sure this was geared towards the beginners because I remember well that using hand tools for the first time can be a frustrating experience. A good idea from a sales and customer service point of view, as well.

I unwrapped the plane from its paper wrapper and initially was struck by the weight of this tool. It had a solid feel to it compared to my 9 ½. Secondly, I was struck by its beauty. It’s sharp! The casting is a flat black paint (japanning?) and the lever cap is a shiny black enamel which I must admit go quite well together. Veritas chose to mill 3 small dimples into the sides of the plane instead of the traditional elliptical depression Stanley used in their block planes. It took me a while to get used to the milled dimples. First because they were a little rough and second I found their placing a little awkward, however I’m getting used to this and don’t really find it a problem any longer. The 6 ½ x 2” plane body was ground flat and square as expected.

I removed the lever cap to examine the 1 5/8 x 0.125” A2 blade. I was glad to see a thick blade (Stanley blades are 0.080). I use 0.125” thick blades in my bench planes and they work extremely well. I expect no less of this iron. I noticed the blade was milled and not ground as I suspected. Interesting! The blade had a sticker around the bevel. I removed the sticker and immediately noticed two things. One, the blade was ground at 20 degrees and two, my blade was nicked. I’m not sure why Veritas uses a 20 degree bevel because I imagine 90% of the users use it on hardwood. Perhaps I’m wrong. Anyway, onto my second point. How did the person applying the sticker to the blade miss the gash (3/16 long) in my blade? It didn’t really matter to me because I always regrind my blades. I ended up taking off about ¼” off the blade and reground the bevel to 30 degrees. Even though the iron was milled I didn’t have a problem flattening the back.

I assembled the plane, adjusted the set screws against the iron, adjusted the cutting depth with the very nice Norris adjuster, and gave it a try on some oak endgrain. Success! This plane works extremely well as I suspected. I even had a uniform shaving across the endgrain which in the recent FWW article the author was unable to obtain. Beginners luck I suppose.

In summary the Veritas Low Angle Block Plane is one fine tool. It’s comfortable to use, looks sharp, it’s well made, performs very well, and best of all it’s made in Canada.

Rating 8.5 of 10 stars

Thanks for reading.

Cheers.

Vlad (Go Canada)

Steve in Kemptville
02-20-2002, 10:44 AM
I really like mine too.

Charles in Brampton
02-21-2002, 12:01 AM
Great review... you've convinced me.

Charles

Rob Lee
02-21-2002, 09:01 AM
Vlad -

Glad you like it...

The 20 deg bevel is supplied standard so the end user has less work to increase the bevel to their preferred angle...reducing a bevel's more work...

Cheers,

Rob Lee
Lee Valley

Paul O'H. Ingersoll
02-21-2002, 09:03 AM
Vlad
Great review, hope to see more of this.
I know you make your own blades, but is there a supplier of the 1/8" blades. LV stocks 3/32's.
Paul

Vlad
02-21-2002, 09:36 AM
Paul,

None that I'm aware of other than myself. I know clifton makes .115" blades but they are USD65. Ouch! Just be aware that many Stanley's can only fit .095 or less. Hence, LV, hock etc make 3/32 blades. This is to satisfy the majority.

It seems that different "types" (see a type study) have varying mouth openings. I happen to have 3 bedrocks that allow for 1/8" blades with no problems. However I can't fit a .125 or a .115 blade on a type 15 #4 Stanley.

Cheers.

Vlad

Marty S
10-25-2006, 11:37 PM
I ended out bringing back my LV low-angle block plane after using it for a week, because I found it to be a bit too heavy for a block plane... and have returned to using my old trusty Record plane. I must confess that the Record is not in the same class whatsoever as the Veritas unit. I may eventually try LV's apron plane, but would like to hear from others before making the purchase.

Marty S.

Frank D.
10-25-2006, 11:51 PM
Hi Marty,
You might try reading this thread:
http://www.canadianwoodworking.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13536
Not about the apron plane specifically though. Maybe do a search for apron plane in the hand tools forum (I'm not sure if we've talked about it before...maybe).

Lars in Hamilton
10-26-2006, 11:03 AM
I had an apron plane. It was my first "real" hand tool. My brother gave me the LV LA block last Christmas and I didn't know which to keep. I ended up selling the apron plane to Ryan in Penetang (on the CHW forum I think). It was a tough decision but I ended up thinking the block would be more versatile (adjustable mouth, set screws, taller side wings, etc..). If you don't like the weight of the block go for the apron plane, it is a fantastic tool and it doesn't weigh very much. I was very happy with it and sometimes I regret selling it.

Lars

Denis Chénard in Ottawa
10-26-2006, 11:08 AM
I ended out bringing back my LV low-angle block plane after using it for a week, because I found it to be a bit too heavy for a block plane... and have returned to using my old trusty Record plane. I must confess that the Record is not in the same class whatsoever as the Veritas unit. I may eventually try LV's apron plane, but would like to hear from others before making the purchase.

Marty S.

Hi Marty,

I do not own the Veritas LA block, tried it once at the Ottawa Wood Show and I don't recall that the size was a bother to me, and I have medium-sized hands. Since I didn't own any LN planes, and the word in cyberspace was that the LN LA block plane was tops in its category, I purchased one last fall. I had to get mine exchanged because of a milling defect, the second one was OK.

To be frank, the plane fits well in the hand, it is solid and heavy for its size, the blade edge lasts a long time, but the plane doesn't "stir my juices". It is a very personal thing, but I don't get the "feedback" I like from a plane. The best analogy that I can think of (and is printable here :D) is that using the LN is like wearing gloves when planing...

The Veritas apron plane is a totally different animal (and in a different category, LN has planes in that category too). Small, lightweight and very responsive. It's like the blade is connected to my hand, I can feel the blade working. Also for some reason I can get the blade sharper on the Veritas than on the LN, allowing for a cleaner cut (which is odd, as I use the exact same sharpening technique, and both blades are A2). The only downside to the apron plane is that the mouth is fixed, and larger than I'd like.

If I could use a car comparison, the LN would be a Mustang and the Veritas apron plane a Lotus Elise. Both cars have roughly the same performance, but the Mustang is heavy and will get you there by brute force, while the Veritas uses light weight and finesse, with loads of feedback.

If you're interested, I can bring both planes at the next OWA meeting...

Just my personal opinion,

DC

Bob Hamilton
10-26-2006, 08:57 PM
Hi:
I have all three of the LV block planes and I would say that I use the apron plane 90% of the time. It just feels so nice in the hand and I rarely have an issue with the non-adjustable mouth. When I do I use one of the other ones.

Take care
Bob

derekcohen
11-05-2006, 12:42 PM
I’m not sure why Veritas uses a 20 degree bevel because I imagine 90% of the users use it on hardwood.

Hi Vlad

Rob said a little but did not explain it fully. In a nutshell, with a 20 degree bevel you just add a microbevel to take it up to the bevel you desire. There is no need to regrind the whole edge.

Regards from Perth

Derek