....and so it begins!

[phil]

Just thought I would mention that I have found it very handy to install outlets on my machines, since they need a pretty heavy cord anyway. for example you might consider having the electrician install an outlet box in a convenient location attached to your TS, it is cheap to do and may save the need for one outlet or the need for an extension cord

I often find myself using the tablesaw as a table so an outlet there is handy.

Phil

[aussie]

Originally Posted by phil

Just thought I would mention that I have found it very handy to install outlets on my machines, since they need a pretty heavy cord anyway. for example you might consider having the electrician install an outlet box in a convenient location attached to your TS, it is cheap to do and may save the need for one outlet or the need for an extension cord
I often find myself using the tablesaw as a table so an outlet there is handy.
Phil

The short answer to this is...... no. I'm sure it works well for you and I'm also sure others would benefit from seeing photos of what you did in a thread all of it's own. Take a good look at my sketch-up images and then go to the extensive thread I posted on how I built my mobile work centre for the saw and even the posts about how my planer and sander are also mobile. Complicating the upgrade process now is not a good idea and as I already have the permit which is quite specific in terms of what is being done I'm sticking to the plan.... man.

Currently covered in dust and grit after moving the dining room table, dressing table and bed base into the container. I've only scratched the surface and there is so much junk to be moved! OI VEY everybody!!! (one of my favourite moments from the original Madagascar). Okay, enough of a break. Back to it.

[aussie]

Almost everything is now cleared out of the garage into the storage container from PODS. It's down to just the small stuff now and of course that's always the worst part of any job like this. The big stuff makes you feel as though you've accomplished something when it's moved because there's a nice big space where it used to be. Moving a pile of small boxes or individual tools a couple at a time looks like you've done nothing until the very last one is gone and even then it seems like you've only scratched the surface. Ah well......
I'm hoping to start painting some of the walls and part of the ceiling this week so I can mount the new lumber rack from LV and my peg board boxes. There's also my air filter to mount on the ceiling but that will have to wait till a second pair of hands are available. If I can get a couple of hours without rain and maybe even some sun I might get a start on levelling the door sill so the seal on the garage door actually seats properly. That'd be a big improvement! Fingers crossed.

[aussie]

Okay no photos and we all know what that means...... lazy me? Well I have good reason. The girls have had a busy schedule this week which means Daddy gets to run around all over after maybe 4 hours sleep a night.

Anyway Saturday is E-Day. That's electricity day or more accurately electricity upgrade day. Just have a few small pieces to pick up now that the inspector has made it clear what I can and can't do out there. For example so long as the 220v motor loads on a circuit don't exceed that circuit's capacity - they are all 20amp - allowing 125% of the rated draw of the motor(s) in question then I can have more than one motor/outlet per circuit. So I'll be updating the 220v outlets by adding a second outlet to each circuit. He also okay'd running the NMD90 through conduit with up to 4 corners in each run so we don't have to go tearing out the existing drywall. Also getting a check mark is using a 4-way outlet on the ceiling for the new fluros which all came with 3-pin plugs and tails. A 60amp GFCI breaker is going into the main board downstairs to feed the pony panel and we've just got to fish the feed line through the existing access holes which could prove to be the most difficult work done all day.

I promise lots of photos taken by me and/or the other set of hands.

Lots of little bits and pieces still to be thrown in the container to make installing the new floor possible but the main priority this weekend is to get that electrical work done for the inspector to sign off on come Monday. If there's time maybe the door sill will be levelled while I have an extra pair of hands and knees around. Then it's off to the dump with all the garbage and maybe even a spot of wall painting before retiring for the day.

[aussie]

I'm just about ready to pass out from lack of sleep thanks to my beautiful blonde daughter waking up at 5am after my beautiful redhead daughter didn't settle till almost 2am. Still I'd better post this stuff now or I may never do it.

No that is not the Travelocity gnome! He does bear a striking resemblance to Mike Graham but I could be wrong about that. Anyway the 60/24 panel is mounted and the feed from the main panel in the basement has been put in place after we drilled through the concrete sill of the garage. We couldn't take the feed through the walls because of the layout so we wound up hiring a rotary hammer drill from a box store that I cannot bear to mention the name of. We've run the two 20/220 and one 15/110 line to the other side of the garage and you can see them disappearing off to the left of the panel. To the right of the panel is another 15/110 line and the lighting line for the new fluros. Mike is "inspecting" the conduit for one 20/220 and two 15/110 lines for the area on his right.

Here's the 110 and 220 utility boxes mounted waiting for the lines. It takes a 41/2" screw to hit a stud in that wall! "Why?" you ask...... because there is a layer of styrofoam between the drywall and the studs as well as the regular insulation. Even on deep scan my stud finder can't pick anything up. You rely on where the drywall screws are and measure off from there. Oh and that's the largest of my pegboard boxes finally mounted above where a small workbench will go.

The PODS container is filling up. We missed the recycling station today so I'll have to drop by on Tuesday because the junk pile is growing rapidly as I sort everything out. Not all of this lot is headed back into the shop!

I can't wait to switch this lot on! These are three of the four new fluro fixtures. They all came with tails and plugs so the inspector said using a 4-way outlet on the ceiling for them is aok. The single cfl is all I've had to work by since we moved in so this will be a major upgrade. I changed the base for that fixture over to one with a 3-pin socket as well so I can now plug my air cleaner in. On the right wall you can see I have some of the lumber rack up at last. Also note the high class plaster job done by the builders!

Got to clean up the mess we made today and get ready for the inspector to look at the rough-in. Then it'll be full steam ahead with the flooring, painting and final electrical.

Now I'm off to a nice relaxing shower and then bed.

[aussie]

I meant to post this yesterday as well but forgot. The small parts rack is being moved - not sure where now but I'll find a spot - and I have three of the five lumber rack supports up. The weird little corner area is almost cleared out so I can soon get started painting the walls and ceiling back there before I build the storage shelves in place. Anyone want a lovely steel rack? Free to a good home. No!? Okay out to the curb it goes!!

These are the amended shop plans so far. You can see I added the layout of the OSB for the floor and the pony panel by the house door as well as........

......a cabinet to go underneath and support the mitre saw table on the right side wall. Now all I need is some time to get this done!

[ArtMulder]

Why is there that big bump out of the corner of the shop?
What are the overall dims? The diagram makes it look on the small side for a garage. Does a car even fit in there?

[aussie]

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Originally Posted by ArtMulder

Why is there that big bump out of the corner of the shop? What are the overall dims? The diagram makes it look on the small side for a garage. Does a car even fit in there?

The back wall is where the kitchen is located and inside that wall are most of the hvac runs to the second floor which are going up and down inside the angled area on the left. Why the wall goes back in the right corner I have no idea other than it's cleared the stove and all the related ducting etc....

Image above shows how our car can fit - barely. Until the small work table is installed the planer will reside elsewhere so there will be some more room at the front but of course for now there is a dining room table living in that spot so no car till next year sometime.

Overall dimensions? Well it's 1551/2" from side to side and the ceiling height is 106" at that back wall. The garage door is 10' wide and the access door is a 32" unit I installed before we moved in even though the numb nuts builder only framed it for 30" when the code here is a minimum of 32. He was one dumb........

[KT in London]

I'm enjoying the updates. Please keep them coming. I wish I had half the talent with Sketchup that you have. I've been lucky to be able to draw straight lines.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by KT in London

I'm enjoying the updates. Please keep them coming. I wish I had half the talent with Sketchup that you have. I've been lucky to be able to draw straight lines.

Trial and error and "borrowing" from much more talented people at the 3-D warehouse! I learned Photoshop and CorelDraw a long time ago and then taught myself Illustrator and that really helps with how SketchUp operates. There are times when I'm about ready to toss the thing to AppZapper but I keep trying.

edit: I suppose in the interest of "keeping it real" if I'm posting the plans for the garage/shop update I shouldn't have included the art with our "old" car. So to that end I've attached the new mode of transport to go along with the new shop.

[big mac]

Just wait till that thing starts dripping oil on the floor !

[aussie]

Originally Posted by big mac

Just wait till that thing starts dripping oil on the floor !

I will lovingly wipe it up and pour it into a glass container to be placed on a shrine to the "Commendatore" Senior Enzo Ferrari! Besides, 599GTB's do not leak. Now wash your keyboard out!


edit: Jokes aside I actually got a chance to do a little work out there tonight once the garbage was put out. We're only allowed 4 bags and we topped that out and more! Looks like a run to the recycling station is needed for the other 3 bags and the rest once I get it all picked up and sorted.

Got the three smaller peg board boxes up on the wall and the last two uprights for the lumber rack but now I'm thinking of adding two more for longer boards. We'll have to see what happens there. I was going to move the clamp racks but I need to built at least 3 more and the wall has to be painted so all I did was take them down and stack everything in the storage container. I also moved the Dirt Devil out to the curb so it'll be interesting to see if it's still there in the morning. It works okay but I have a nice shopvac and we have something a lot better in the house. Hoping to be laying floor bits this weekend. Fingers crossed.

[aussie]

Well it's painting day, or at the very least primer day.

Anyone driving by our place there's a metal storage rack and a Dirt Devil out on the curb both free to a good home! They were amongst the last items to be sent packing as the tornado that is me in a cleaning frenzy went at it on Saturday. Nearly everything else is in the storage container or in a large skip at the recycling centre. I didn't have the heart to throw out my old "Chewbaca boots" after all these years and the missus has said she'll try to clean them up for me. I bought them in Queenstown, NZ in 1982. Once they're clean I promise there will be photos! Maybe I'll wear them to Lunch in Leaside?

The mobile work centre is still in the garage covered by a drop sheet because I didn't want to put the milled lumber out in the storage container while I painted around the lumber rack so I stacked the lumber on top of the saw and it's wings. That thing sure comes in handy. The broken microwave cart is still in there too. As much as I want it gone it's a handy paint stand...... for now. I think it'll be off to the recycling centre next weekend to make room for all the ply that's arriving.

Speaking of sheet stock....... I finally ordered all the OSB and ply needed for the floor and the various projects to be completed in the garage. I wound up needing 71/2 sheets of OSB and while I couldn't get a 4x4 of T&G that's no big deal because all of that piece is going to be used for the small filler pieces along the left wall. I went with paint grade 3/4"(18mm) ply for the storage shelves on the back wall, the 4wx2dx21/2h cabinet on the right wall and the mitre saw table. Seeing as the work centre will be in the container come Friday when the OSB arrives and the floor starts to be laid, I decided to have the ply delivered to The Carpenter's Square and break it down there Saturday morning. When you install Delta-FL they recommend you go around the outside with expanding foam - same with the foil - so I don't feel like being cooped up in the garage breaking down 7 sheets of ply - 6 x 3/4" & 1 x 1/2" - while that stuff expands and dries especially with the paint fumes on top of it all.

Photos to follow.

[woodbuster]

Another thought I haven't seen mentioned ... most times I see wall plugs at the standard height of 15" from the floor. When I built my shop 15 years ago, I wired it myself and put plenty of outlets in, about 5' from the floor. Saves bending over trying to clear away stuff to get to a plug.

I also wired my assembly table with 4 plugs, so I just have to plug the table into the wall and run my tools off the table outlets. Saves tripping over cords.

Sometimes I wish I had more 220 outlets. The dust collector is 220, as is my 8" planer. I don't run them at the same time, which kind of defeats the point of the dc for that machine.

My 2 cents ...

[aussie]

Originally Posted by woodbuster

Another thought I haven't seen mentioned ... most times I see wall plugs at the standard height of 15" from the floor. When I built my shop 15 years ago, I wired it myself and put plenty of outlets in, about 5' from the floor. Saves bending over trying to clear away stuff to get to a plug.

I also wired my assembly table with 4 plugs, so I just have to plug the table into the wall and run my tools off the table outlets. Saves tripping over cords.

Sometimes I wish I had more 220 outlets. The dust collector is 220, as is my 8" planer. I don't run them at the same time, which kind of defeats the point of the dc for that machine.

My 2 cents ...

Hmmmmm........ all the new outlets are 4' high or more.

Observe the three outlets in this photo. Now look at the 6' level leaning against the wall. How high do those outlets appear to be to you?

Observe here the 110v outlet and light switch mounted beside the door. Note that said door step is 15" above the floor. How high does this utility box appear to be? The outlets behind where the mitre saw is going are 5' high. I have three 220v and 4 new 110v outlets on the walls now all with their own circuits but I also have 13 spare slots on the board in that photo so.....

My assembly table is also know by another name, it's called my mobile work centre.

What size is your shop? Mine is 155"w x 225"l. That is not exactly the New Yankee Workshop. I really don't use a lot of extension cords because mostly everything is very close to everything else.

[woodbuster]

Apologies. I missed seeing those boxes. My work area is 24' by 26'. I built an assembly table which doubles for many things, but when I'm putting something together I don't have to lay it out on the floor (which isn't perfectly flat and level).

[aussie]

I swear if I ever meet any of the drywall crew that worked on this house.......... I sand and sand and sand and seal and when I put the primer on up comes the bloody plaster to coat the roller! At least none of the holes that I've patched have peeled up so that's something. Also the drywall is not flat. Far from it.

Anyway 2/3rd's of the walls are primed and about 1/10th of the ceiling. I only get to do about an hour a day with the schedule I have taking the girls around to their classes and appointments so it looks like Sunday will be a big push to get the ceiling primed and top coated in one day. Lots of drop sheet material will be needed for that one.

Maybe I can persuade some people from Lunch in Leaside to come over and help? Yeah, right!

edit: Oh I should add that the Dirt Devil and the steel shelves are gone! Good riddence!!

[aussie]

That's one! Thank goodness the rain stopped and it was actually sunny when the OSB was delivered this morning. These are my first pieces of the Delta-FL, Reflectix and OSB laid on the floor.

The Delta gets overlapped on the smooth area on the left side and tuck taped then the Reflectix is laid over that and also tuck taped together and then the OSB is dropped on top of that and everything is secured to the floor using Tapcon screws every 2'. I'm also applying expanding foam sealant around the perimeter as recommended by the Delta folks.

I'm going to seal the ends of the OSB at the garage door end by simply painting the sheets and we'll see how that works out. I'm looking around for a metal plate/sill to attach to the end of the new floor as a transition from the concrete up to the OSB so the ends of the wood are not being pounded to sawdust every time I roll something in or out of the garage.... sorry.... my shop!

I hope to finish the floor this evening and I'll get more photos up then. I'm liking this more and more now.

[aussie]

Well I didn't get finished tonight. Close though. I ran into some problems with the tongue and groove and had to clean out most of the grooves and some of the tongues. I also don't have a large enough "persuader" to drive the sheets together so I'll have to borrow my neighbour's once I get back from cutting the ply tomorrow (Saturday). I have to pick up a couple of extra concrete bits too because I've gone through two already and I only have 2 of the sheets secured!! Not a good sign.

As I surmised there isn't a square wall in this joint! The concrete sills are close but the walls themselves are all over the place which slowed me down as well. The back wall with it's ins and outs was a pain to cut the Delta, Reflectix and especially the OSB to fit into all those spots. Anyway I'm noticing a difference out there already at least in terms of comfort to work/walk on. Much easier on my worn out bones than the bare concrete or the rubber mats were.

So one more run of the Delta-FL to do and it has to be cut the entire length of the run to match up to the left wall and then at the back wall you can see it's going to have to negotiate a couple of angles none of which will be square or close to any known stop on a mitre saw or a set square! What fun.