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  • #16

    Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

    Hi Ron, Thanks. The little squares you see in the diagram above are to indicate the posts needed for the railing.
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    • #17

      Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

      You would be wise to check out the local building code, when the township that our cottage is in became an organized one, the building codes for Toronto were implemented (not a bad thing when you see how some structures were put up) In looking at the method for fastening the posts to the rim joist , your design would not meet (Toronto) code. I had to box in the post, use through bolts and have the post extend below the rim joist by 4-6" (cant quite remember the dimension) to meet code. Your area could be different but it's better to check it out than have to tear it down a redo it!

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      • #18

        Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

        I build decks part time through the spring\summer\fall. Glass railing designs must be approved by a structural engineer in order to pass code. In my experiance you will need doubled up rim joist's with the post mounted on the inside of the rim joist. Also these will have to be reinforced underneath with blocking.

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        • #19

          Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

          Straight from the Bldg Inspector,
          • "Framing members for guards are required to provide 'the necessary strength and rigidity to provide protection from falling under normal use.'
          • Glass in guards shall be tempered or laminated safety glass which conforms to the standard CAN/CGSB-12.1-M".
          So I've changed from lag bolts to carriage bolts and washers. A single run of 2x8 ridge board is sufficient. And I'm going to place the top rail on top of the post, thus lowering the post a couple extra inches which I'll use to bolt to the ridge board.
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          • #20

            Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

            I helped my SIL do a peeled post and glass panel railing in their cabin, but it's interior. The mounting of the glass was very simple; just a 1/2" x 3/4" deep stopped groove in the rails, with a few rubber buttons set in the grooves. The glass stopped 3" or so from the posts. These were seasoned posts and rails, and they were stable to begin with.

            To do an exterior version, I might silicone in a plastic liner in the lower groove, or as has been suggested, drill drainholes in the base groove every 6" or so, then using Endcote in the groove.

            A dado in the 4x4 posts? My immediate thought is they'd weaken the posts some, and as mentioned, the post is a lever. (We used machine bolts on the thing we did.)
            hth
            regards,

            Mike

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            • #21

              Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

              Another option

              We considered glass for this deck we built last year for a client, but to be honest the black aluminum spindles tend to "disappear" better we found. You always see a reflection in the glass which makes it feel like more of a barrier. This was not a money issue for this 1200 sq ft deck - just a design issue -but they are way cheaper.

              Paul
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              • #22

                Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                i am new to the forum we are building a deck of ipe and we want tempered glass

                Hello
                Glad to have found this site
                We have a large deck, we are redoing it in ipe, and would like to do aluminum or stainless system with glass , I would like to know what companies you recommend for the glass and the systems needed for install
                The deck is looking amazing we are using a plug system, and I am thrilled now need the railing system the main part of the deck is now finished, we are looking at 82 feet of rail system for the deck
                Any suggestions are appreciated

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                • #23

                  Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                  Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                  It is kind of hard to recommend a supplier when we have no idea where you live. The best I can recommend is that you get a list of previous clients that the contractor has dealt with before and actually go and look at the work they have done in the past. Can save you a lot of head aches down the road. Also get more than one quote.

                  Brian
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                  • #24

                    Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                    Re: i am new to the forum we are building a deck of ipe and we want tempered glass

                    Originally posted by npmadsen View Post
                    Hello
                    Glad to have found this site
                    We have a large deck, we are redoing it in ipe, and would like to do aluminum or stainless system with glass , I would like to know what companies you recommend for the glass and the systems needed for install
                    The deck is looking amazing we are using a plug system, and I am thrilled now need the railing system the main part of the deck is now finished, we are looking at 82 feet of rail system for the deck
                    Any suggestions are appreciated
                    Try Regal or Royal. I've used both and they are pretty easy.
                    "Do it Right!"

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                    • #25

                      Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                      Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                      the 1x1.5 strips might trap water, drain holes might work. when I did the railings on my porch I just put stainless steel washers between these 1"x1 1/2" strips and the 2x4 and then attached them with countersunk deck screws,trapping the washer between. seems to be working ok. the washers just lift the strip up enough for the water to not get trapped.
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                      • #26

                        Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                        Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                        Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum as well and this thread has been really helpful. I was thinking of routing a 1/4" slit by 1/4" depth on the bottom and top railing then using silicone to seal the glass in place. I'll then use the 1x1.5" strips to further secure the glass.

                        Would this be sufficient? I would really appreciate your advice. Thank you.

                        Rob

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                        • #27

                          Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                          Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                          Just a quick comment. I did my deck about 20+ years ago using the half lapped post attached to the rim joist with through bolts and washers. The posts are sturdy but because they are attached only to a single rim joist covered by a "facia" board there is some flex particularly along the 24 foot lenght of the railing. Probably enough to stress your glass panels and maybe shatter them.

                          I would strongly suggest beefing up whatever you are bolting the railing to and make it as rigid and inflexible as possible.

                          My deck is all cedar with wood ballusters so a bit of flex is not a big problem - but I do remind friends to not lean heavily against the railing.

                          Someone on this forum also suggested that half lapping the posts and thereby reducing their strength was a bad idea, but in 20 years I've never split a post yet - but as I say, I keep big folk from leaning or trying to sit on it.

                          I really like the glass idea - BUT - sure wouldn't want to have to constantly clean it
                          Nothing is ever as straightforward as it seems.

                          Glenn from Winnipeg

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                          • #28

                            Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                            Re: attempting wooden deck railing with tempered glass

                            Originally posted by icon115 View Post
                            Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum as well and this thread has been really helpful. I was thinking of routing a 1/4" slit by 1/4" depth on the bottom and top railing then using silicone to seal the glass in place. I'll then use the 1x1.5" strips to further secure the glass.

                            Would this be sufficient? I would really appreciate your advice. Thank you.

                            Rob
                            If you're adding the strips on BOTH sides of the glass you can forget the silicone.
                            "Do it Right!"

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