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    I have a large deck to refinish. It's a 16 years old deck. I thing it's going to be the second time that some thing is apply on it. As of now i roughly Sand the surface, so i thing i'm ready to apply a stain.
    I look at the deckover, is it any good? Will it last? Do i need to use there cleaner before hand?

    Thank's for your advise

    Guy
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    If this is the same type of coating that Lowes sells for resurfacing decks, then I would say that you should seriously reconsider just replacing the deck boards. I spoke at length with a Lowes department manager about their product and was told the following: Coverage is 100 square feet per can at $40 each. You need two coats to get a proper build. My math tells me that you are looking at around $0.80 per square foot. PT decking is around $1.25-1.50 per square foot. I asked how many problems they have had with the product. In a moment of honesty, she said quite a few. The manufacturer has had to repair numerous decks as the product blisters and peels. Seems that this is another product designed for a climate that is quite different than Canada's.

    A neighbor installed the HH granite product on his step. It didn't last a year. Couldn't handle the winter traffic, especially the salt.
    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."

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      I just find some review on there product, it doesn't sound good

      http://behr-paint.pissedconsumer.com...610495873.html
      http://behr-paint.pissedconsumer.com...609495338.html

      I think a ad my answer

      Thank's Max

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        Our neighbors used Behr for the fence, so to match it I finally caved and bought a can. If turns out to be a crap product, I'm going with Sikkens line of stains. I used their SRD on our deck railings and it looks amazing - even after a hard winter. Highly recommended by a lot of users.

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          Originally posted by Bubba Gump View Post
          Our neighbors used Behr for the fence, so to match it I finally caved and bought a can. If turns out to be a crap product, I'm going with Sikkens line of stains. I used their SRD on our deck railings and it looks amazing - even after a hard winter. Highly recommended by a lot of users.
          This product isn't a stain though. Its a thick paint that gives the deck a whole new appearance. After posting earlier, I googled some product reviews, and there were some raves, mostly from warmer US areas, but a lot of complaints about peeling and blistering. I'd be inclined to wait at least another 5 years before seeing how the product holds up in the north.
          "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."

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            Bah - sorry, missed that. An in-law used their deck paint and it lasted one year on the West Coast. He went with a DuLux or Sherwin product and didn't have the same issue, although it stands to reason you'll need to reapply it every couple years.

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              Funny, Pat Forum did a Consumers Report recently that had them at CR saying the Behr Deck Stain was a top winner.

              Durable deck stain

              Opaque stains outlast semitransparent and clear finishes overall. A CR Best buy, Home Depot's Behr Deck, Fence & Siding 200 line, $24 a gallon, looked best in our tests after two years and still looked good after three. Also consider Sears Weatherbeater Deck, Fence & Siding opaque, $18 a gallon, which did nearly as well and has fewer VOCs, which have been linked to pollution.


              Personally, I don't put a lot of value in CRs and Pat Foran's expertise. He's a reporter for crying out loud. They know a little about everything and not a lot about anything imo.



              I'm looking for finishing alternatives for fencing and decking I'm doing soon. Have looked at Cutek oil which is from Australia, has rave reviews, but is scarcely available in Canada. DeckMasters in Ontario sell it for $101 gal and if you want one of the tints to add to it for $10 each.

              http://www.cutek.com.au/

              http://www.deckmasters.ca/



              Have also read a lot about how great Penofin Oil is. I actually just received from them free samples yesterday that were dropped off to me of their marine oil and hardwood oil after speaking to them on the phone that very morning. The sales rep who dropped them off for me was from this distribution company http://www.yhdistributors.ca/ but you can get Penofin products at other retailers in Canada. Of course I haven't had a chance to use them yet. The samples are in plastic tubes that each hold a few ounces. I got two of each.

              http://www.penofin.com/products_exterior.shtml

              I found out a lot reading these sources...

              http://festoolownersgroup.com/finish...?topicseen#new

              http://festoolownersgroup.com/finish...-with-ipe-oil/

              http://festoolownersgroup.com/member...shing-project/

              http://topcoatreview.com/2011/06/ipe...ngs-not-to-do/


              Messmer's oil is another one that is highly rated, but has little outlets here in Canada it seems.

              http://www.messmers.com/
              Kevin

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                Originally posted by Bubba Gump View Post
                Bah - sorry, missed that. An in-law used their deck paint and it lasted one year on the West Coast. He went with a DuLux or Sherwin product and didn't have the same issue, although it stands to reason you'll need to reapply it every couple years.
                Anybody's PAINT WILL FAIL outside. If the object of your exercise is to create a job every couple of years that gets harder and harder to do then go ahead and paint. Bubba, I'm not suggesting it's your "GO TO" advice BTW. It's just that this keeps coming up. Think about it for a second and ask yourself why we have Vinyl and Aluminum siding instead of wood siding that requires repainting every few years.

                Then there are all these oil type finishes that many people begin to consider in an effort to reinvent the wheel. Many many of them have great advertising but no history of longevity. I love those job creators.

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                  Originally posted by Lost in the Woods View Post
                  Funny, Pat Forum did a Consumers Report recently that had them at CR saying the Behr Deck Stain was a top winner.



                  Personally, I don't put a lot of value in CRs and Pat Foran's expertise. He's a reporter for crying out loud. They know a little about everything and not a lot about anything imo.



                  I'm looking for finishing alternatives for fencing and decking I'm doing soon. Have looked at Cutek oil which is from Australia, has rave reviews, but is scarcely available in Canada. DeckMasters in Ontario sell it for $101 gal and if you want one of the tints to add to it for $10 each.

                  http://www.cutek.com.au/

                  http://www.deckmasters.ca/



                  Have also read a lot about how great Penofin Oil is. I actually just received from them free samples yesterday that were dropped off to me of their marine oil and hardwood oil after speaking to them on the phone that very morning. The sales rep who dropped them off for me was from this distribution company http://www.yhdistributors.ca/ but you can get Penofin products at other retailers in Canada. Of course I haven't had a chance to use them yet. The samples are in plastic tubes that each hold a few ounces. I got two of each.

                  http://www.penofin.com/products_exterior.shtml

                  I found out a lot reading these sources...

                  http://festoolownersgroup.com/finish...?topicseen#new

                  http://festoolownersgroup.com/finish...-with-ipe-oil/

                  http://festoolownersgroup.com/member...shing-project/

                  http://topcoatreview.com/2011/06/ipe...ngs-not-to-do/


                  Messmer's oil is another one that is highly rated, but has little outlets here in Canada it seems.

                  http://www.messmers.com/


                  Just to clarify again, we are not talking about stain.
                  "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."

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                    Originally posted by Max In Sudbury View Post
                    Just to clarify again, we are not talking about stain.
                    Neither was I, these are oils, although some varieties/brands can be tinted just like other stains. Just thought I'd bring them up as an alternative to film forming coatings.
                    Kevin

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                      I used the Behr rubbery porch stuff once, what a mistake it was clean but peeled in a year. I would never again buy anything from that brand. The Sickens Cetol is good though.
                      “The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.” -Bertrand Russell

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