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    What is the quality like on these two planes?

    Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

    http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...05&cat=1,41182
    http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...65&cat=1,41182

    The price point is pretty attractive.
    It says made in Canada, who makes them?

    I am considering them or this one from lie neilson
    https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/...lane?node=4072

    Does anyone here use any of them?
    I would love to hear some feedback (or pointed to an alternative if there is one)

    Thanks

    Nathan
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    Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

    I have the curved sole squirrel tail and it's a solid performer for it's limited usage. Nice hefty feel and decently thick blade. The mouth is quite wide but that may be unique to the curved model. I've really only used it a few times.

    I also have an original Bailey Little Victor that belonged to my grandfather. Tight mouth, thinner blade than the LV, but I'm not about to give it up.

    I think a question might be why do you want such a small plane. Is it to do precision work for model making or is it a handy tool for knocking off corners and such. The LV Apron Plane or LN 102 (which I have) would both be better quality that either of the ones you propose, at a higher price of course.

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    • #3

      Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

      Originally posted by Kayak Jim View Post
      I have the curved sole squirrel tail and it's a solid performer for it's limited usage. Nice hefty feel and decently thick blade. The mouth is quite wide but that may be unique to the curved model. I've really only used it a few times.

      I also have an original Bailey Little Victor that belonged to my grandfather. Tight mouth, thinner blade than the LV, but I'm not about to give it up.

      I think a question might be why do you want such a small plane. Is it to do precision work for model making or is it a handy tool for knocking off corners and such. The LV Apron Plane or LN 102 (which I have) would both be better quality that either of the ones you propose, at a higher price of course.
      Well for small work of course lol
      I have grandpas Stanley low angle block plane & a regular block plane - they get a lot of use.
      I find myself wanting a smaller one for some precision work - mostly small projects for my kids and building guitars.

      I like the LN 102 but I have two block planes which do 90% of what I need them to do.
      It would be nice to have something for the other 10%

      I am also planning on ordering a curved sole plane if I canít find one on the forum.

      Nathan

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      • #4

        Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

        Late to the party again but since I have both variants of the LV squirrel-tail planes, I will toss in my 2 cents. They are really well made in Canada. Both were perfectly usable out of the box; nice thick irons, decently sharp and are easily set-up. I use them for box making, toys and model building for the most part. The flat soled one gets a lot of work as a small block plane when I shingle the roofs of my birdhouses and other block plane tasks where my regular sized low-angle block plane is too unwieldy. Suffice it to say that these small planes have impressed themselves into my hobby wood shop in a BIG way!

        The Little-Victor reproduction would be a bit redundant for me since I have several miniature planes already so I cannot comment on its utility. The build quality is the same as the other ones.

        Ken
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        • #5

          Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

          I have the LN squirrel tail plane, won it as a door prize at a LN event some years ago. Works well for small tasks and tight spots where a block plane cannot go.
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          Erik

          Canada's Island Paradise - Prince Edward Island

          Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club

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          • #6

            Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

            Hereís what Iím working on.

            I have the little Stanley plane that surprisingly works okay.
            I added some mahogany & turned into an infill but itís absolute junk.
            Sheet metal sides and the blade is very thin.


            Nathan
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            • #7

              Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

              The LV squirrel tail plane would be a night into day improvement over what you showed! I restored an old version of one of those for a gentleman who wanted it as a keepsake from his father but he had to promise not to use it before I went to the effort! On the other hand, I would not let anyone out of my shop with the LV squirrel tail planes; I like them that much!

              Nice project BTW!

              Ken
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              • #8

                Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                Originally posted by KenL View Post
                The LV squirrel tail plane would be a night into day improvement over what you showed! I restored an old version of one of those for a gentleman who wanted it as a keepsake from his father but he had to promise not to use it before I went to the effort! On the other hand, I would not let anyone out of my shop with the LV squirrel tail planes; I like them that much!

                Nice project BTW!

                Ken
                Thanks!

                My first carved top!

                Nathan

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                • #9

                  Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                  Hey Nathan, It's pretty easy to make a little finger plane. Basically a Krenov design in miniature. You can shape the bottom to any profile you like. And make it as long as you want.

                  https://fixitwithshading.com/2015/11...making-part-1/

                  http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/index.html
                  KenL, nnieman and like this.

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                  • #10

                    Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                    Here's one I built with scraps from around the shop...

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                    • #11

                      Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                      Thatís a great idea Sean thanks!

                      I was hoping you would see this.
                      Have you been doing carved tops or mostly flattops?

                      Where do you get blades from?

                      Nathan

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                      • #12

                        Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                        Mostly flat tops but I use that for carving the braces. The blades are from Lee Valley, one of the replacement blades. I used the block plane replacement blade. It's 1/2" wide.

                        http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...32&cat=1,41182

                        But I have also seen a couple of threads where people make their own blades out of tool steel and harden the blades themselves. I don't have the metal working skills to do that....

                        Quite a bit cheaper (not counting your time) than purchasing.

                        On the other hand, if you are going to do more of this, it might make sense to look at actual instrument makers planes,

                        http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...80&cat=1,41182

                        I know a person who swears by these. All hand carving done by these and well shaped scrapers.

                        Your top looks gorgeous! Are you doing the mortice neck joint or fitting a bolt-on? (sorry, I don't mean to derail the thread)

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                        • #13

                          Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                          I guess the one link I sent was pretty useless. Here are a couple of other links that I remember looking through:

                          https://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-Thumb-Plane/

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwyKe3iOb8Y

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                          • #14

                            Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                            Originally posted by SeanB01 View Post
                            Mostly flat tops but I use that for carving the braces. The blades are from Lee Valley, one of the replacement blades. I used the block plane replacement blade. It's 1/2" wide.

                            http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...32&cat=1,41182

                            But I have also seen a couple of threads where people make their own blades out of tool steel and harden the blades themselves. I don't have the metal working skills to do that....

                            Quite a bit cheaper (not counting your time) than purchasing.

                            On the other hand, if you are going to do more of this, it might make sense to look at actual instrument makers planes,

                            http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...80&cat=1,41182

                            I know a person who swears by these. All hand carving done by these and well shaped scrapers.

                            Your top looks gorgeous! Are you doing the mortice neck joint or fitting a bolt-on? (sorry, I don't mean to derail the thread)

                            Bolt on neck

                            Theres a lot of new skills for me in the project so Iím sticking with a bolt on.
                            Semi hollow body (or heavily chambered) with top binding.
                            Old maple top (from my stash) over a very light South African mahogany body.
                            The body shape is a gretsch duo jet.
                            i plan on attempting a hand rubbed burst.

                            Neck is torrified maple with a vintage style 1 way truss rod.(curved slot).

                            Nathan
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                            • #15

                              Re: Lee Valley Little Victor or Squirrel Tail Palm Plane

                              Wow, sounds awesome! I look forward to seeing the finished product.

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