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  • #16

    Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

    Originally posted by Canuck Bob View Post
    I might come into a few extra bucks for equipment :-).

    European was tempting till I did some price research!
    I find European often is tempting after I look at pricing

    For example I have a 12" jointer/planer. It's less expensive than a stand alone jointer and planer, and takes up less space.

    I also have a sliding saw/shaper which once again is less expensive than separate saws and shapers.

    Regards, Rod.
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    • #17

      Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

      Originally posted by Jim DaddyO View Post
      Blaming "China" for poor quality stuff as a blanket statement is not a true pursuit. Factories, any where in the world, build to the specifications and quality control the contracts stipulate. They do no more, and no less. If you order crap, you get crap. If you order better, that's what you get. If you want to put blame anywhere, put it on the name tag on the product. They ordered it to those specs, or did not quantify the quality assurance checks, or let some other area go to cut costs.
      Agree but the same product, built to the same specs will often be more expensive if built in NA or western Europe because the employees are paid properly and they have to adhere to at least some environmental standards in and around their factories.
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      • #18

        Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

        Rod, my best buddy has a Large Felder Slider and I think a 16" Felder Combo unit. I admit if my health circumstances warranted the investment I would step up to Euro. However, I have the use of his iron so for the handful of times it would be needed I'm really lucky.

        I'm researching the CWI Scorpion 12 inch helical jointer/planer. I don't have much room but the 12" jointer and 55" bed capacity in a manageable size sure is tempting. I am sold on helical carbide tooling. Which unit is your jointer/planer? I assume from your post that you are happy with the purchase.

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        • #19

          Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

          Originally posted by Canuck Bob View Post
          Rod, my best buddy has a Large Felder Slider and I think a 16" Felder Combo unit. I admit if my health circumstances warranted the investment I would step up to Euro. However, I have the use of his iron so for the handful of times it would be needed I'm really lucky.

          I'm researching the CWI Scorpion 12 inch helical jointer/planer. I don't have much room but the 12" jointer and 55" bed capacity in a manageable size sure is tempting. I am sold on helical carbide tooling. Which unit is your jointer/planer? I assume from your post that you are happy with the purchase.
          i know your post was aimed at Rod,hope you don't mind my two cents
          i previously had a hammer a3-31, I am quite certain that is what Rod has,12" jointer/ planer combo
          outstanding machine in much less space than any separates you could buy,new or vintage.
          change over is a non issue,mere moments.
          cant comment on the Cwi ,no doubt it shares a lot of the advantages of the hammer.
          i now have a felder combo slider/ shaper/jointer/ planer
          love it
          that said,I'm convinced a slider/ shaper combo as well as a jointer/ planer combo (2 machines)is the ultimate for a small shop
          Last edited by al.m..; 09-18-2019, 09:02 PM.

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          • #20

            Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

            Al I appreciate your input. My small windfall hit an unexpected tax problem which should be worked out one way or another shortly. The solid advice about the two modern designed Euro type machines seems echoed by everyone who took the plunge. I think for fun and interest I'll start a new thread.

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            • #21

              Re: Anyone make machines built in North America?

              Don't forget that a lot of why we got the products out of China (Taiwan) was politics to have a place against the communists, and these people got preferential status and extra industrial help to build machines etc. for the USA and us as well, the same similar thing happened with Japan and where given the help to build the electronics, these machines and the electronics were developed in the USA and here and the EU.

              Companies did take the advantage to build with low cost labor and other incentives, and we all started buying lower cost products, forcing the other companies to either shut their doors or join in going to these countries.

              Expecting the same qualities as we were expecting or receiving here for much higher prices is of course not happening.

              In the case with Taiwan we got a bunch of crap, but they did catch on quickly and improved their products, with cost going up and some manufacturers still trying to sell lower priced and lower quality, going to Indonesia or Korea etc. and later to mainland China.

              China has poured enormous amounts of energy into getting better and the Communist can do whatever they like really, with money pouring in they were schooling their people and bringing teachers and specialists from the west, and building and developing everything in a record time and still are.

              They are stealing information on how things are made and developments that are done anywhere, with enough people to produce everything and boatloads of money now they are as powerful as anyone, we started it and we will have to deal with what it has become, it will cost us to stay ahead if we can/will.

              Oh just to add, the crap we bought before will stay crap unless we demand better or buy made here in NA.



              Last edited by Leo Van Der Loo; 09-19-2019, 04:14 PM.

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