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    Hello!
    I was sent over from fine woodworking forum by some folks that said this was a helpful spot.

    so I’ve got a Wadkin jointer/planer that I got in Norway and brought to my shop in sweden. The long and short of it is I got it rewired to 220v but the electrician made a little mistake and only did the spindle motor. So after burning out the feed motor I brought it in to get rewired and converted to 220v and now with everything installed the motor is getting very hot to the touch after about 40 minutes of use.
    im wondering what is the ambient temperature of the motor on these machines? I’m afraid of burning the motor out again because it’s an expensive fix. The motor is so hot i can only touch for about 3 seconds.
    Any recommendations welcome!
    -Ryan
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    Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

    I have the same machine except mine is just the planer, my feed motor is 2 speed, 3 Phase.
    If the motor is getting that hot i think something is not right. Motors can get warm but real hot doesnt sound good.
    JMO
    But then again reading this you might be ok.

    This is a question for the electrical forum, you might get better advice.
    https://www.plantengineering.com/art...ow-hot-is-hot/
    Last edited by redlee; 04-24-2020, 05:07 PM.
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    • #3

      Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

      I would contact the place that rebuilt your motor and ask there opinion, maybe have them test run the motor if not to hard to remove from the machine. To me that sounds too hot but I'm no expert either.

      Can you isolate the motor from the feed and see if the motor still heats up when unloaded. Also you could have a electrician check the current draw when operating the feed.
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      • #4

        Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

        Thanks for the response!
        I’ll head over to the electrical forum and see what they have to say. Unfortunately the motor is very hard to remove. I ran it for about 20 minutes without any load and it warmed up good but I could still touch it.

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          Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

          If possible get a actual temperature reading from the motor when hot. Also a picture of the motor and the specification plate would contain some useful info for someone with electrical motor expertise.

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          • #6

            Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

            Hot for a motor isn't the same thing as hot for your hand.

            Have you measured the motor temperature? 40 degree rise would be fine, that would bring the motor temp to 60 to 70 degrees which is far too hot to touch...Rod.
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              Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

              Originally posted by Rod Sheridan View Post
              Hot for a motor isn't the same thing as hot for your hand.

              Have you measured the motor temperature? 40 degree rise would be fine, that would bring the motor temp to 60 to 70 degrees which is far too hot to touch...Rod.
              Whereas this statement is absolutely correct most motors do not run so hot unless pulling full load amps working very hard.
              Rob

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                Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                You could try the UK Workshop Forum if the suggestions here don't resolve your issues. https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/
                Being British they have some members that know the brand quite well.

                Pete

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                  Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                  Here’s a photo of the motor. I had a machine specialist come take a look today and he couldn’t figure out the issue so I’ve pulled it and will bring it back to the repair shop to get tested.
                  ive also posted over at the uk forum.

                  Thanks for all the helpful words. I’ll be sure to come back with a response after it’s all said and done!
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                    Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                    Yup hard to work on, Ive had both of mine apart and it’s a pain.
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                      Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                      I don’t know if it is an issue, but that is a 50 cycle motor turning at something like 1440 rpm by design, and now has to turn some 20% faster at 1725 rpm or there about, that could be a reason for the higher temps maybe ??

                      Have fun and take care
                      Leo Van Der Loo

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                      • #12

                        Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                        Norway and Sweden both have 220V, 50 cycle power Leo.

                        Pete

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                          Re: Wadkin Bursgreen BAOS

                          Originally posted by QC Inspector View Post
                          Norway and Sweden both have 220V, 50 cycle power Leo.

                          Pete
                          Didn’t realize this was not in N.America
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                          Have fun and take care
                          Leo Van Der Loo

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