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    So I'm gonna buy a jointer. I need one for an upcoming progect (see older thread 'dovetails in fir?')

    For this project I can easily get away with a 6". A few folks are telling me to go with 8". I think that for 90% of what I do, 6" will be fine, especially given that a 6" jointer is half the price of an 8. Any of you that have had jointers for a few years that can offer suggestions? My old cabinet shop had an 8", but in my current profession, if I ever need a jointer at all, mostly is just to join boards, not straighten faces. Any thoughts and advice on what I might expect/want in the future?

    If you've had a 6", in which circumstances have you been disappointed with it?

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

    I am lucky enough to have 2 joiners.. a 4" and an 8" but neither of them is wide enough... go Big as you can afford. Back when I was teaching we had a 12" on campus and even it was to narrow, every once and a while. Go as big as you can afford. (did I repeat myself?)

    I use the 4" more than the 8" but edges is not the full capacity of the joiner. Bigger is better.... What You can afford.
    Bill "Hickory" Simpson

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    • #3

      Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

      Originally posted by Bill Simpson View Post
      I am lucky enough to have 2 joiners.. a 4" and an 8" but neither of them is wide enough... go Big as you can afford. Back when I was teaching we had a 12" on campus and even it was to narrow, every once and a while. Go as big as you can afford. (did I repeat myself?)

      I use the 4" more than the 8" but edges is not the full capacity of the joiner. Bigger is better.... What You can afford.


      Thanks Bill. I should also say that portability is a factor - every couple months or so I'll move to another job site, and somebody has to lift that sucker into the back of the truck!

      But I see your point. I might go 8". I do have labourers

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      • #4

        Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

        I have a 6" inch jointer that has done a great job. Do I need a wider jointer...heck yah. There have been times an 8 inch would have come in handy. My shop is in the basement so weight is always a consideration for me.

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        • #5

          Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

          A portable joiner? Wow! I will be interested to hear how well the tables stay in alignment with all that moving and bouncing around.

          I would have suggested an 8" unit ( generally over 500 lbs.) until you mentioned moving it. JG

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          • #6

            Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

            WooHoo! A trim carpenter in Whistler eh?

            I am going to take the real unpopular stand here and suggest you think twice about getting a jointer at all.

            I had one, it broke , I started using my TS to finish edge all my lumber, and I never again looked back. I work mostly with rough lumber so it all has to be edged and honestly - I have had way better results with the TS and a the Feud Glue Line blade than I ever had on the jointer. Of course in all fairness, my jointer was never all that great to begin with and I am sure I would have found it a different story had I owned a good one but.......that kinda brings me to my point.

            I believe most of the "good" one are big.....not just with size but weight and you are talking about transporting it? I am not altogether sure you will be happy with the results you get from a more portable model. Even if it works OK - I am with JG and really have a concern over alignment - that can be an issue in a shop setting let alone after transportation.

            I would suggest to you to take some practice runs on the TS - often it takes a several passes before having a perfect glue joint but you might find you really don't need a jointer after all.

            I took the pic below a couple of years ago when a friend was concidering buying a jointer to illustrate how the TS can do a good job of edge jointing.

            5 - 1x4 VG Fir

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            • #7

              Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

              The same considerations are used when both buying a jointer, and deciding how big of an aircraft carrier to take into battle. You may not need a Nimitz, but just in case...it's gotta be nice to have! I have a 6 and once a month I wish it was an 8. The only thing to think about, though, is an 8 is not only twice as expensive, but I bet it's about twice as heavy too.

              Cheers!

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              • #8

                Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                Jointers

                Both Steel City and Powermatic make a 6 in Jointer with extra long beds. They are a couple hundred more than their regular 6 in jointers. This would give you the advantage of the longer beds that you get with an 8 in but not the extra weight If you attached a couple of carrying handles ( wheel barrow type) along each side I am sure two people could easily carry the 6 in. Working in Whistler, I am sure that budget is not your problem.

                Brian
                If your dreams don't scare you, you are not dreaming big enough

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                • #9

                  Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                  Thanks everyone for the replies.

                  Shelley, I've done lots of jointing with a table saw and long straigh edge. I find though, that even with the best blade, the joint line is still discernable to the keen eye. But with a well tuned jointer, I can make them go away. The thing, is that right now, I need to build five pieces of furniture - something I don't usually do, and that I desire these particular people to see not a single defect in their furniture.

                  I've pretty much decide on 6". I think that an 8 will be too heavy to move around, and that I can do 90% of what I want to do with a 6. And because most of what I do is not for myself, I can afford to rip a wide board to a narrow one if I need to flatten it and then joint it back up. If I do it right no one will know

                  Sounds weird but there is a budget in Whistler It's just not what you and I are used to!

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                  • #10

                    Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                    Hi Kiely,
                    I don't know if you have made your decision yet, but here is a consideration that has not been mentioned yet. The difference between a 6" and an 8" usually includes difference in motor horsepower. Any construction/building site I have been on is criss crossed with power cords from a central power panel or each contractor's portable generator.
                    This is my personal opinion - I would not want to run a 1.5hp/120V motor for any length of time on an extension cord. I am not so sure I would want to run a 220V extension cord on a site either.
                    FWIW I recently went through this 6" vs 8" process. I settled for the 6" Delta X5 that would fulfill most of my needs stock-wise, lighter and therefore easier to roll around in my garage and lower hp motor (with lower operating costs) so I could use a short heavy gauge extension cord.
                    Regards

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                    • #11

                      Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                      Thanks Darrell, that's an excellent point. On my current site we have a woodshop set up with it's own dedicated panel, but I won't be there forever.......

                      I guess they don't make these things cordless yet eh? :lol:

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                      • #12

                        Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                        Originally posted by Kiely View Post

                        I guess they don't make these things cordless yet eh? :lol:

                        Sure they do...
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                        J.P. Rap Mount Hope Ont.
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                        • #13

                          Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                          Originally posted by J.P. Rap View Post
                          Sure they do...
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                          Nice set JP,

                          How about... 15 1/2"





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                          • #14

                            Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                            Originally posted by Jim Shaver, Oakville Ont. View Post
                            Nice set JP,

                            Not mine. I just googled for a picture. I wouldn't post a picture of my one and only plane for fear everyone would die of laughter.
                            I'm not a hand tool guy but I do appreciate those that are.
                            J.P. Rap Mount Hope Ont.
                            Carpe Ductum (Seize The Tape)


                            "In this world, you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. Elwood P. Dowd

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                              Re: Jointers - 6" or 8"?

                              Originally posted by J.P. Rap View Post
                              Not mine. I just googled for a picture. I wouldn't post a picture of my one and only plane for fear everyone would die of laughter.
                              I'm not a hand tool guy but I do appreciate those that are.

                              Agreed and I'm somewhat embarassed to say that I never even thought of doing it by hand Not that my little Record block plane could keep up to Jim's heavy - that's a beautiful plane, Jim.

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