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  • #31

    Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

    Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

    It's about time you came back and updated this thread Jack....

    It was getting to the point where I was going to do it for you...lol

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    • #32

      Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

      Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

      J
      In a few day I will have more than you have seen elsewhere posted here. I want to add to the OWWM ARN content here. I hope to show more the reason I like the old stuff. Hoping to get more to turn RUST JUNKIE and on to the path of enlightenment.



      The motor I got for the Wadkin RM is Not a Wadkin Motor. I needed a footed motor to drive the head and This 3 phase 5 HP baby should do a fine job of it. It is most likely off an old band saw based on the bearings . It's got open deep grooved ball bearing set in the bells. One great features to these type motors is the grease bled at the bottom so you can't over grease and the old grease stays out of the motor winding. This motor should last forever for what I am using it for. They say it is wise to change the bearing when you got things apart ,but I have had good luck determining if bearing are good or not by running and looking in side. So far I have only been off once. I must have saved $2000 so far in the rebuild once I started checking the bearing in stead of just changing them because they were old. Most if not all the bearing I am talking about were open . I have never found good old sealed bearing.

      the motor after a test run on power.


      theses bearing looked a sound great and pressure on the shaft had no play. I cleaned the old grease out that was in general good looking . It was not hard or soapafied.



      The fan end bell of the motor had a neat mesh grill to keep shaving out of the motor. It was neat but not up to what I wanted and thought it looked not all that great. It got filed away under G. I made my own at the drill press with some scrap sheet stock.more on that later.


      So really all and all the rebuilding of this Motor was just maintenance and was ready to go to work.

      For purely atheistic reasons I paint things at this point and like to add what i call an artistic licence. My restoration are what I think they should be and so I indulge myself. I find Machinery in it original state boring and drab and like to hot rod some things.If you like original look away









      The motor finished


































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      • #33

        Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

        Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

        Your work is insanely clean and nice! Looking at your restoration thread is among the most fascinating tool magazines (including the new ones) I've seen.

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        • #34

          Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

          Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

          Originally posted by mreza View Post
          Your work is insanely clean and nice! Looking at your restoration thread is among the most fascinating tool magazines (including the new ones) I've seen.
          thanks for the words of enjoyment. I do love theses old machines.


          The wadkin RM had some rust on it but everything moves,and I did not have time last winter to do any major work on it ;( When one gets a new toy it hard to leave them alone). I had been taking small parts off it this winter and working the machine peace meal.

          The bridge Guard is a UK design and there are differences over the American pork chop guard . i was very lucky to have this still with the machine. You thing pork chop guards are hard to find try finding a UK bridge guard? Any way the guard was riveted together and to clean it the old rivets had to come out. I made new ones with carage head bolts turned down.

          made a new handle and add spring load to the end plate . The chain for the counter wight is made of tin with bronzes pins. I just love how picky the Brits are/were.

          the counter wight was missing and i am using the one i made for my Band saw. it's filled with sand and this time i want to use lead Shot.


          Can you still get lead shot at the sport camping store/gun shop. I am not a hunter so I would not know. Does it cost a lot for say 5 lbs. Or are there any other sources for lead that are cheep?
          there will be an opening in the counter weight of about 3/4".


          the rusty RM


          cleaned






          new handle with spring load end





          bronze /tin chain for counter weight





          the home made counter that I would like to fill with shot and make smaller.



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          • #35

            Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

            Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

            You got to love machines that were made before plastic and tin/sheet metal was common.

            The control station is solid bronzes cast. Wadkin painted it gray and I just could not do it. looks like a traffic light don't ya think?


            out of practice on my lettering.LOL



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            • #36

              Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

              Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

              i did find a Brooks feed motor for $30.




              i started working the bed and what to most people looks bad just needs a shave. For old rusted tables I like to give them a shave.I buy my straight raisers in boxes of 100. took about an hour.




              i pulled the bed rollers and checked the bearing. they were gone and because they are not to easily serviced I replaced them with rubber sealed SKF. $100.


              the serrated infeed and smooth outfeed and bed rollers went to a metal lathe to bring them back in spec. I know the guy so $30 but a proshop should only charge an hours labor.


              the blocks that hold the cutter head and rollers/ pressure bars are all cleaned up and the plain bearings for the rollers were in great shape. Steel in cast "ARN" with oil channels cut in the bearing like in Babbitt. there is a hole left from the hold downs spring rod that leaves a hole for the bearings oil and the ways are cut from there. should I and a piece of felt?



              bearing were gone on the motor and new sealed SKF $30 bearing were instaled. it look like a rewind had be done. If you have never experienced how smooth a 3 phase motors run watch the video.


              you tube
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIqo...1&feature=plcp

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              • #37

                Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                Took the Presures Bars out of The Wadkin RM . The infeed side was worn in the middle as is always the case. I want to get this thing tuned in when I get it all painted . I like to do the machinery side of thing first. I find it easy to work the with the small parts and after all the mechanical is repaired i jump in and jackifie.

                the chip breaker and pressures bars on ether side of the Wadkin RM head





                starting with the chip breaker

                its was out about 3/32"

                made a simple sled for the disk sander



                milled chip breaker



                Video

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjP-5...vK2ZAWXA&index


                If you don't have a disk sander I bet it on your list now


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                • #38

                  Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                  Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                  I'd post my true thoughts, on your project, but would probably be banned for the pornographic analogies. Let's just leave it at "I like what I see".

                  Lead shot... another option is to melt down some used tire weights.

                  I look forward to the day that I have the time.

                  Thank you!

                  Kev

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                  • #39

                    Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                    Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                    Thanks for the update! Love the thread.
                    Any more shots of the making of the guard? That would be cool to see how you did that.
                    meanwhile, I like that guard, but the black star knob on the top seems a little out of place to me. Have you thought of some nice turned wood, maybe something like this?

                    014-1.jpg

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                    • #40

                      Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                      Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                      Originally posted by callee View Post
                      Thanks for the update! Love the thread.
                      Any more shots of the making of the guard? That would be cool to see how you did that.
                      meanwhile, I like that guard, but the black star knob on the top seems a little out of place to me. Have you thought of some nice turned wood, maybe something like this?

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]51098[/ATTACH]


                      Callee when the machines are this big(3787lbs) you got to cut back some

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                      • #41

                        Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                        Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                        OK looks like I got the drive side all work out as far as mechanical goes. I still need to find a cheep 600 volts VFD for speed control but as it stands I have the stock feed rates of 20/30/46 FPM. I got the 145 frame motor mounted on an old foot mount I had in the rat hole using a peace of 3/8 steel plate. So I have belt adjustment and the shaft height I needed to work with the guards. works just great with the wadkin motor mount.



                        Now I just have to get this mount Jackified


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                        • #42

                          Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                          Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                          boys handle are the pits. 1 as is,2 electrolysis,3 jackified.




                          off with the tables



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                          • #43

                            Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                            Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                            Originally posted by jgarrett forsberg View Post
                            Can you still get lead shot at the sport camping store/gun shop. I am not a hunter so I would not know. Does it cost a lot for say 5 lbs. Or are there any other sources for lead that are cheep?
                            there will be an opening in the counter weight of about 3/4".
                            jack
                            English machines
                            Cabella's has shot listed on their website for ~$26 for a 5lb package. Locally you might want to give That Hunting and Fishing Store or le Barons a call for pricing/availability.

                            Some other suggested sources that came up were:
                            - soft gym weights sometimes use lead shot
                            - old wheel weights (call tire store/mechanic) that you could melt down to a usable size.


                            On another note, have you ever had an open house or given a tour of the old arn?

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                            • #44

                              Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                              Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                              Originally posted by Kelwynne View Post
                              On another note, have you ever had an open house or given a tour of the old arn?
                              Funny you should ask that.... I was at Jack's yesterday and got a little Wadkin temple tour . I swung by his place on my way back to Barrie from Montreal.

                              The cutting head for the RM really needs to be seen to grasp it's incredible size. The thing is massive....

                              Admission isn't free though... you need a Wadkin decoder ring to get the password....lol.

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                              • #45

                                Re: 1941 Wadkin RM 26" jointer over 24" planner

                                Re: Dave (richwood furniture)save a Wadkin and get one too.

                                [QUOTE][Locally you might want to give That Hunting and Fishing Store /QUOTE]

                                I was going to try there as my first stop.

                                On another note, have you ever had an open house or given a tour of the old arn?
                                As J said I have had tours What he forgot to mention was I let him make a cut on the PK as I watch his facale expressions. I did enjoy the viset form the 2 members here on CCW. J got to see the PK with saw dust on it. PM me Kelwynne for particulars on a tour as you seem to be up the street. In the meen time i did do a shop tour(youtube) over a year ago but the stenner mortiser and othere machines like the Brookman dovetailer are not in it You can find them on tool613 youtube.


                                back to the the rebuild::::::::::::::::::::::

                                135lbs motor mount. jesssssssssss.




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