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    The tilt top saw is a bit of an orphan today the history goes back 150 years or more with some old huge iron examples made in Galt Ontario kicking around right up to the little Inca's once sold by LV but no longer in business. The design gets around the problem of either the motor turning with the bevel cut or the twisting of the belt as one move relative to the other. But the down side is you are fighting against gravity on the angle cuts. The base of these machines can be more compact compared to a contractor or cabinet saw as the whole assembly does not move inside a box. Many of these tilting saws came with chuck on the oposite end of abor for a single borer/mortiser on the end for mortising or doweling, the Delta/Milwaukee never had this option however. It seem today boat builder are still really keen on tilt top saws.
    I picked up this really complete Delta/Milwaukee 8 years ago very complete with stand, guard, two fences. Gerry I think posted one of Kijiji in the GoldenOldies and propted me to take mine out. Once you have got mentally past the tilting table these machines are well above average in build quality and maybe worth a second look used as a compact saw, model saw or second shop saw as it takes a full 10" blade or dado. Some of the features include nice thumb screws for adjusting 90 and 45 degree tilts, a large brass raise/lower threaded disk, A Gib adjustment in the raise lower so there is no play. The locking thumb screws have a built in screw stop so they can't be over tightened.
    I thought I would post some pictures of the two parts that make up the main assembly so you can see what makes the saw intresting.
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    sigpicToday's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.

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    Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

    Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

    Excellent, you brought it out into the daylight. Sweet saw, especially that cast base model.As you say they are a great saw for the flooreum challenged shop., as long as you are not doing a lot of bevel cuts. Makes me want to get rid of a couple of my tablesaws and pick up the one on Kijiji only I am miles apart from the seller price wise.

    Thanks for giving us a look.

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    • #3

      Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

      Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

      sweet looking saw, a huge improvement over my little craftmaster tilty and way better than the "twist the belt" types

      there's nothing wrong with a tilt table as far as im concerned, id have an old delta tilty in my shop any day
      my shop is a beaver lodge
      steve, sarnia, ont

      sigpic

      1940's Beaver Jointer

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      • #4

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        Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

        Hi Mark

        Any idea in what year it was made?

        Except for the cast iron base mine is identical.

        Would have to check the serial number.

        I took it apart several times to clean and lubricate but still have to do a paint job on it.

        If I remember well I've checked my serial number on OWWM but without any success.

        Cheers

        Andre

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        • #5

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          Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

          Tilty's are neat, but I still can't come to terms with breaking down a large-ish sheet with a needed bevel. Personally, I'd never buy a full sized (cabinet saw) version of one.

          Something along the lines of what you have there Mark would be a benefit to a small shop. A secondary saw at best, imo.

          My problem is, I can't seem to find a Canadian vintage slider....

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          • #6

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            Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

            Thanks Steve in Gerry, This saw is like a seductive lady, the more you look at it the more she says keep me. I am going to get rid of some saws around here.
            I am keep the Poitras cabinet and my slider Panel Saw and the portable...
            but I can't decide on what should go General 350, Delta Tilty above, BB cabinet saw (for sure gone). Some machines I have had in storage for years.
            Cheers, Mark
            sigpicToday's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.

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            • #7

              Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

              Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

              I'd lose the 350 while the get'n is good...

              You'll get the best return on it for sure, and they're even less rare than a Unisaw if you ever want one again for memory's sake.

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                Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                [QUOTE=J. Vibert;416102]Tilty's are neat, but I still can't come to terms with breaking down a large-ish sheet with a needed bevel.

                Jarrett I am sure you will get your Wadkin, they are out there.
                I like a second or third saw in the shop myself for different set ups I tilt my saw a fair bit, building corner cabinets come to mind.
                sigpicToday's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.

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                  Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                  Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                  I bought a tilty from JP a couple of years ago and it has not made it home yet. If I don't pick it up soon the storage may be more than I paid for the saw. If anyone is in the area of Kintore Lumber in Kintore they have a very old and large Tilty that Mark made mention of and the use it on a daily basis. It must weigh a ton.

                  Brian
                  Last edited by Brian @ Muir; 07-09-2012, 11:12 PM.
                  If your dreams don't scare you, you are not dreaming big enough

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                  • #10

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                    Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                    I also have one of these saw's. Had a new arbour made years ago and its a great jobsite saw beacuse you can actually carry it. Used to have it set on a heavy duty plywood box with wheels. The old fence was quite good.

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                    • #11

                      Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                      Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                      Thats the same saw as I have just started as my project, although mine comes with a 6" jointer on the same stand.

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                      • #12

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                        Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                        Can some one tell me the diameters of the pulleys they are using on their tilty? I am not sure mine are correct. The top one on the arbor I have right now is 4" and that seems a little large and would hit the bottom of the table casting.
                        Today I made some progress, mounted a single phase 3450 RPM 1 hp motor and took off the 3 phase as mine had come from a school originally.
                        Thanks, Mark
                        sigpicToday's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.

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                        • #13

                          Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                          Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                          4 inch is a big pulley for the arbour, the beavers had 2 1/4, allowing full blade height

                          old blades/saws were generally run at around 3000 rpm so check the motor pulley too especially if the old motor ran at 1725.
                          my shop is a beaver lodge
                          steve, sarnia, ont

                          sigpic

                          1940's Beaver Jointer

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                            Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                            Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                            Originally posted by stevem View Post
                            4 inch is a big pulley for the arbour, the beavers had 2 1/4, allowing full blade height

                            old blades/saws were generally run at around 3000 rpm so check the motor pulley too especially if the old motor ran at 1725.
                            That's what I am thinking as well Steve. I would like to get the machine running about 4000rpm, it can handle it. It looks like I am digging though the bone pile if not I am off to PA for some cast iron pulleys. This is one heavy saw for it's size with the cast iron base.
                            Cheers, Mark
                            sigpicToday's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.

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                              Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                              Re: Delta/Milwaukee Tilt Top 105-1277 exposed

                              Mark - From what I have been able to find on the Vintage site it appears this machine utilized a 1725 rpm motor equipped with a 5" motor pulley with a 3" pulley on the arbor. My math says that gives the arbor a speed of 2875 rpm.

                              Gerry

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