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  • #16

    Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

    Its amazing what goes missing when government have anything to do with things
    www.wadkinrestorations.co.uk

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    • #17

      Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

      How about this one for anyone interested.
      http://www.daltonswadkin.com/products/wadkin-wx/

      Have a good week.
      https://www.red9designs.ca

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      • #18

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        This is an old post and I have only recently found it.
        Yes, There is a Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker here in Auckland New Zealand
        I purchased it at an Auction about 25 years ago. It was from the pattern making shop at Mason Bros Foundry. If I had not won the bidding it would certainly have gone for scrap. I was obviously the only person who knew what it was and or had room to install it !
        The cutters went up as a separate bid. I won that too.
        Since then, I purchased a Wadkin Recessing machine with similar tooling. I use that machine a lot. It does not have the capacity of the MW er but more convenient for the size of work I do. The MW is absolutely original and has it's own Wadkin installed electric motor complete with a Induction regulator for speed control.
        Years ago, I spent time doing some research. I went to the Wadkin Agent in Auckland. He showed me a relatively modern Wadkin Catalogue with a beautifully restored Wadkin Mechanical Wood Worker featured on the cover. It seems it was in their head office show room. Twenty five years ago there was no inexpensive way to copy the picture. Sadly, I never got to see that catalogue again.

        Chris McMullen
        Auckland New Zealand

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        • #19

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          Hi Chris nice to see you here, I've been asking some of the old employees of wadkin and they don't recall seeing a MW at green lane. I don't know when the show room at London closed. I've been searching museums for one but I haven't found one yet
          www.wadkinrestorations.co.uk

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          • #20

            Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

            Hi Chris. Welcome.

            I'm sure we'd all love to see pictures of your woodworker.

            And I for one would like to see your recessor too - having recently bought a Wadkin LP recessor - which incidently is mostly still in storage in West Auckland awaiting transport to Wellington (which may have to happen soon as I believe its storage location may have been wind damaged in yesterday's storm).

            Cheers, Vann.
            Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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            • #21

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              I am still chasing that Wadkin mechanical Woodworker here in Sydney.
              I have started trying to contact a bloke I worked with about 40 years ago who started up a company dealing in industrial archeology who where involved with the assessing of the stuff in storage at the railway workshop before it was disposed of. Hopefully he can put me in touch with someone who knows where it now resides.
              In the meantime I have discovered another which is a electric motor driven one as opposed to the Sydney one which was lineshaft origonally with a motor on the floor.
              I have been requested to keep its location secret and as it is in its original workshop with a few other Waddies thatís ok by me.
              I will probably post a few pics later of this machine.

              I havenít checked this old post in a while and am very interested in hearing about your machine in NZ Chris.
              Is it lineshaft or has it a motor mounted high on the rear ?
              sounds like yours came up just a bit after ours in 1990.
              Theres a listing of the countries and companies Wadkin sold these and the later pattern mills to up to about 1952 and from memory NZ only had 2 and they were both Government (railway)from memory. Iíll dig out the list and repost it here with the Oz and NZ ones accounted for noted.
              If you do read this Iíd really like to see a few photos of yours.
              H.
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              • #22

                Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                Its weird I've been searching for one in the homeland and cannot find one
                www.wadkinrestorations.co.uk

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                • #23

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                  Originally posted by Pfakir View Post
                  ...with a few other Waddies thatís ok by me.
                  I will probably post a few pics later of this machine...
                  Tag photos of this and any other Wadkins always appreciated.

                  Cheers, Vann.
                  Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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                  • #24

                    Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                    Originally posted by Pfakir View Post
                    ...Theres a listing of the countries and companies Wadkin sold these and the later pattern mills to up to about 1952 and from memory NZ only had 2 and they were both Government (railway)from memory. Iíll dig out the list and repost it here with the Oz and NZ ones accounted for noted...
                    While researching the history of my Wadkin RB surface planer I came across a list of all the machinery acquired when NZ Railways re-equipped their four railway workshops in 1925-30. There are no mechanical woodworkers on the list. The nearest machines are two Robinson boring and recessing machines for the pattern shops at Hutt and Hillside workshops.

                    I'm also sure that none were transferred from the old workshops, to the new pattern shops, at that time (it's possibe that one or more may have been transferred to other woodworking departments within the railway workshops - but unlikely).

                    I wonder if the Devonport naval base had one? The other large manufacturing plant that may (or may not) have had one is A & G Price in Thames (NZ).

                    Hopefully your list will clarify this.

                    Cheers, Vann.

                    Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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                    • #25

                      Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                      Vann,
                      Hereís the listing. It was Guv. but not Railway, I knew you would be onto it.
                      Herriwullie posted the 4 pages in reply to Jacks 2015 post. ď1910 pics of the Wadkin Pattern Miller.Ē
                      Iíll post the Oz list when I get back from getting my eyes checked for new specs, just had both cataracts done and now need new specs.
                      H.

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                      • #26

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                        Here is the Oz listing. This list is dated 5/52 apparently.

                        This is interesting as it shows the machine Iím searching for which was a Mechanical Woodworker by the original company and the listing for S A Railways is an Pattern milling machine from the second company.
                        Alison has posted pics of this machine on the OWWM site in a post on the Railway workshops in South Australia down the road from where she grew up.
                        The majority of these are from NSW and going thru these in order

                        BHP in Newcastle .......I donít know anything about this but they shut down their steelworks many years ago.

                        CSR Sydney.......My dad worked there as a maintainance fitter on night shift in their production plant in the early 60s. A younger woody I know had space in their old Pyrmont factory before it was torn down. He mentioned a DR36 bandsaw. Housing built all over there now.

                        Cockatoo Naval Dockyard Sydney...This facility was owned by Vickers so this may be a double entry for one machine.......Pattern shop auctioned off in 1991 now a tourist venue in the harbour. I served my time at Garden Island the other Naval Dockyard in Sydney. A Patternmaker came over from Cocko in the late 60s but the gear was never discussed and heíd by planted by now.

                        NSW Gov Railway Chullora.......They had a big yard and workshop but now even the TAFE is shutting down I know nothing re this machine. A lot of their equipment may have ended up at Cabinetmaking at Lidcombe TAFE nearby. Their was a Sagar lineshaft Disc and bobbin auctioned from there a few years back. I stuffed up the auction time but had nowhere to put it at the time.

                        NSW Gov Railway Everliegh......I went to the disposal auction in 199? And bought a 10Ē RS lathe and a mate bought a16Ē RD planer. The mill was still in the foundry and was bought by a mob in Queensland from memory, it was huge.

                        NSW Gov Tramways Randwick........This is the one the TTTG was given and I am chasing. A woodturner mate Mike Darlow bought a 30Ē Oliver jointer at this auction in 1991.

                        Supply Dept of Melbourne and Sydney. Know nothing but this was probably in Melbourne.Victoria.

                        Sydney County Council....... My mate Jack Thompson who was sales manager for Australian Engineering Services. A.E.S.who were the NSW Wadkin agents from the 1920 until Wadkin set up here in 1983 or so told me how many Wadkins heííd sold to the council. I doubt if their workshop still exists but will chase Jack.

                        Sydney Tech College Ultimo Sydney........I went to tech here from 1965 to 1968 and there was a Bridgeport in the metal pattern area but no Wadkin Mill. I know the last teacher from there who would have gone thru his apprentiship 10 years prior to me so Iíll ask him. There may also be some very old members of the local master patternmakers guild still alive who may have info to ad.

                        In addition to these listed The was one auctioned a few years back from Cunberland patterns here in Sydney it was a WX bought in the 1960s.
                        Alison bought the tooling from this machine.

                        Well thatís it for NSW as far as the other States go I understand that the local GM subsidiary Holden had 2. As they only started to design and build cars from scratch in the late 50s their machines arenít listed.

                        The foundry at Maryborough was still operating a few years ago and with the local sugar mills needing firebars etc are probably ok. The boss of Carbatec (an Oz mob like Lee Valley but low rent) had their mini lathe prototyped here before getting it mass produced in China.

                        I did visit Jack Thompson a few years back and he said whilst he was a salesman and then sales manager for about 20 years they never sold a Pattern mill.
                        H.

                        Last edited by Pfakir; 01-21-2019, 08:54 PM.

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                        • #27

                          Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                          Originally posted by Pfakir View Post
                          ...Hereís the listing. It was Guv. but not Railway, I knew you would be onto it...
                          Thanks Pfakir. Both the Auckland Transport Board and the Wellington Corporation Tramway built their own trams (although much smaller operations than NZ Government Railways).

                          I think the Wellington tramway buildings may still be standing - in use as a trolley bus garage until about a year ago. However I doubt there is any heavy machinery still existant. The Wellington Tramway Museum had a Wadkin DO bandsaw from the tram barn until they sold it about 18 months ago (plonkers).

                          I would guess that the mechanical woodworker from the Auckland Transport Board would be the one that Chris bought from Mason Bros Foundry.

                          I really am surprised that the Devonport Naval Dockyard didn't have one.

                          On a smaller scale: The Wood Mill at the Otahuhu Railway Workshops burnt down in 1955. The replacement building had a Wadkin LQ installed (which I'll swear is the one that sold on Trademe last year). So at least three of the four railway workshops had boring and recessing machines (but no mechanical woodworkers).

                          Cheers, Vann.
                          Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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                          • #28

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                            Oops I forgot the two what sold on Grays a while back.
                            Big $.
                            H.
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                            • #29

                              Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                              Originally posted by J Vann View Post
                              ...I think the Wellington tramway buildings may still be standing - in use as a trolley bus garage until about a year ago. However I doubt there is any heavy machinery still existant...
                              Enquiries so far suggest that some machinery from the Kilbirnie workshop of the Wellington Tramway was gifted to an African country, several years ago. My contact will see if he can find any more detail.

                              Cheers, Vann.
                              Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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                              • #30

                                Re: Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897.

                                Originally posted by Pfakir View Post
                                Oops I forgot the two what sold on Grays a while back.
                                Big $.
                                H.
                                And here's a Pattern Miller listed on that well detested auction site... https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/123642940487?ul_noapp=true Located in Orange, NSW, Australia.

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                                Cheers, Vann.


                                Proud member of the Wadkin Blockhead Club.

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