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  • #16

    Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

    The centre band should not rotate, it should be a light press-fit onto the top half of the pen. It will be fine even if it does rotate on that style of pen but not so on most kits.

    Ken

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    • #17

      Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

      I find the center band slides on with a nice firm fit, for about part of the way, and then just drops the rest of the way after that.

      In the picture, the remaining space is loose enough that it just slides down. Perhaps it's just the kit that I used? It's a LV kit if that matters.
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      • #18

        Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

        That is normal for a Trimline kit.

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        • #19

          Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

          Ignore my comment above, I mistook your pen for a European round top; Roger has correctly identified the pen and is correct about the centre band fit as well!

          Ken

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          • #20

            Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

            i just started turning pens, and you really dont need much. i spent more time setting up the drill press for drilling the blanks than anything else, it has to be accurate

            all i bought was the "starter kit" for LV and you'll need the "A" mandrel as already discussed.

            something to press the pieces together, ie your lathe, drill press, bench vice, quickgrip clamp etc lots of options

            lathe tools are pretty basic, only tricky part there is the small tenon on one of the wood pieces, a parting tool works well there and a pointed scraper for the tenon shoulder

            you can make your own blanks, 3/4 square by 5 or 6 inches. making them square allows accurate drilling on a DP and allow accurate trimming of the ends on a disc sander. i use my disk sander with a mitre guage to trim the blank ends to length after gluing the tubes in
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            • #21

              Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

              Even though they aren't cheap, my favourite method of squaring the end to the tube is the pen mill. Since it uses the tube as a guide it will cut the ends square to the tube even if the tube is not parallel to any side of the blank.
              billh
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              • #22

                Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                Originally posted by billh View Post
                Even though they aren't cheap, my favourite method of squaring the end to the tube is the pen mill. Since it uses the tube as a guide it will cut the ends square to the tube even if the tube is not parallel to any side of the blank.
                billh
                i can see that bill, it takes longer to prep and sand(ends) the stock than to make the pen, that time would be reduced a lot with the end mill

                and to the op, buy extra tubes!! one of my burl pieces just broke apart and i dont know if i can remove the tube from the remains of the blank. i will try, maybe some heat will soften the epoxy

                time to order some stuff!!

                well i was able to turn the remains off the tube, sand the tube a little and now on to make a new wood piece
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                • #23

                  Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                  Sure. Just mount on the mandrel and turn off the wood and epoxy.
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                  • #24

                    Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                    I also just started making some pens. So far you have received some very good information. William Wood Write is absolutely terrific to deal with. Fast shipping, fair prices.
                    One thing not mentioned here is a mandrel saver. Mandrels tend to bend if over tighten and using that little nut to hold your work tight is not nice. I bought one of those mandrel savers and it works very well in my opinion. Only good for the A mandrel, but a lot of kits do use this mandrel. Just my two cents worth.



                    http://www.penblanks.ca/Mandrel-Saver-Tailstock-MT2/
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                    • #25

                      Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                      Originally posted by Brian_ToyGuy View Post
                      I also just started making some pens. So far you have received some very good information. William Wood Write is absolutely terrific to deal with. Fast shipping, fair prices.
                      One thing not mentioned here is a mandrel saver. Mandrels tend to bend if over tighten and using that little nut to hold your work tight is not nice. I bought one of those mandrel savers and it works very well in my opinion. Only good for the A mandrel, but a lot of kits do use this mandrel. Just my two cents worth.



                      http://www.penblanks.ca/Mandrel-Saver-Tailstock-MT2/
                      i wonder if removing the centre pin from my oneway live centre would do the same thing
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                      • #26

                        Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                        I don't know how many people who own Oneway Live Centers are aware there is a special pen-turning point available for the center.

                        https://oneway.ca/Pen%20Turning%20Po...ch=pen%20point

                        I think this point has a different angle than the supplied sharp point and fits mandrels better.

                        billh

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                        • #27

                          Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                          I have this live centre set for my metal lathe and I find that the 90 degree point is a very nice fit to the pen mandrel: http://www.leevalley.com/en/images/i...88b2002s02.jpg

                          If you have the One Way live centre kit; the item Bill linked to is a much less expensive alternative. I actually used a stock live centre for a while and had to re-machine the cupped end to get it to run accurately after a lot of usage. There has been no repeat after I started using the 90 degree centre.

                          Ken

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                          • #28

                            Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                            Originally posted by billh View Post
                            I don't know how many people who own Oneway Live Centers are aware there is a special pen-turning point available for the center.

                            https://oneway.ca/Pen%20Turning%20Po...ch=pen%20point

                            I think this point has a different angle than the supplied sharp point and fits mandrels better.

                            billh
                            i didnt know that!! i'll pick one up next time im going through stratford, and some jumbo jaws, another chuck body, some more.......
                            going to oneway is going to lee valley!!
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                            • #29

                              Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                              Originally posted by stevem View Post

                              i wonder if removing the centre pin from my oneway live centre would do the same thing

                              I dont think it will fit the mandrel. at least not to tolerances. I also have a Oneway live center.
                              The 60 degreee point from oneway is just fine, but I think I prefer the mandrel saver,





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                              • #30

                                Re: Tooling for beginner pen turner?

                                Originally posted by Brian_ToyGuy View Post


                                I dont think it will fit the mandrel. at least not to tolerances. I also have a Oneway live center.
                                The 60 degreee point from oneway is just fine, but I think I prefer the mandrel saver,




                                you're right the centre pin in the oneway is considerably larger than the mandrel shaft. i do like the idea of the mandrel saver, also the brass nut on my mandrel comes loose once in a while especially in reverse. plus if the brass nut falls into a piule of wood shavings, i'll never find it!! at least a steel one can be found with a magnetic broom
                                my shop is a beaver lodge
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