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    Greetings

    I purchased one month ago a King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS
    The problem I am facing know is that the machine tailstock would slip after tightening the piece ( see 1+ 2 pictures , with red circle around the issue)
    I think this is related to the piece underneath the tailstock that hold it in place (picture 3) , it is not wide enough to provide better tightening

    Is this normal with lathes or I have to contact the manufacturer , appreciate your feedback , thanks


    Picture 1+ 2 ( Tail stock slipping)










    Picture 3 (underneath piece)





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    Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

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      Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

      I just looked at the manual and as I suspected, there is a round thick washer like piece that has to keep the tailstock from moving, the same under the banjo.

      I had a Delta Midi Lathe LA200 that had the common round disk under the tailstock, and it did let the tailstock creep, so I made a simple rectangular plate for it, shown in the two pictures here.

      The problem with the round disks is that there is just a very small area to prevent the slipping, even when adjusted properly, it is something like these two here (l l) show, if you imagine that the two straights are the lathe bed, there is a very small area under it (l l), anyway I just used a ¼” piece of flat stock, as I had it, though a bit thicker might be better, mine did work just fine.

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      Last edited by Leo Van Der Loo; 04-28-2020, 05:21 PM.

      Have fun and take care
      Leo Van Der Loo

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        Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

        Like Leo I've made similar clamp blocks. I used 1/2" aluminum plate because I could cut it out with my table saw. It worked pretty good although it was a bit stickier than steel. You can also buy blocks from Lee Valley. https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/turning-tools/101330-clamp-blocks-for-steady-rests-for-spindles-and-bowls

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          Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

          Here's my fix for breakup of cast iron clamp mechanism on Craftmaster. Got idea from Vintage Machinery schematic of 1967 Rockwell / Delta 12" lathe showing a 5/16" U bolt mechanism. 1/4" plate is from a piece of steel laying around. Small 1/8" thick piece, riveted in place, is to guide block between bed ways. Works well. Also added an extension to lever mechanism.
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            Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

            Originally posted by Mosarbo View Post
            Greetings

            I purchased one month ago a King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS
            The problem I am facing know is that the machine tailstock would slip after tightening the piece ( see 1+ 2 pictures , with red circle around the issue)
            I think this is related to the piece underneath the tailstock that hold it in place (picture 3) , it is not wide enough to provide better tightening

            Is this normal with lathes or I have to contact the manufacturer , appreciate your feedback , thanks


            Picture 1+ 2 ( Tail stock slipping)










            Picture 3 (underneath piece)




            Welcome to the forum. You made need to make a few posts before you will be allowed to upload pictures?

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              Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

              Originally posted by DougLA View Post
              Here's my fix for breakup of cast iron clamp mechanism on Craftmaster. Got idea from Vintage Machinery schematic of 1967 Rockwell / Delta 12" lathe showing a 5/16" U bolt mechanism. 1/4" plate is from a piece of steel laying around. Small 1/8" thick piece, riveted in place, is to guide block between bed ways. Works well. Also added an extension to lever mechanism.
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              As they say, whatever works for you, but why did it break in the first place ??, and I would suggest that round waster plate, where when it wasn’t holding the tailstock secure, extra leverage was used, now that the washer plate has been replaced by a rectangular plate, the extra leverage isn’t needed anymore.

              If I had to do the repair, I would’ve made a new ring for the broken one and replaced the washer plate for a rectangular plate.
              If you are happy with your fix than that’s all that count, happy turning
              Last edited by Leo Van Der Loo; 04-29-2020, 11:37 AM.

              Have fun and take care
              Leo Van Der Loo

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                Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

                Thanks for all who provided solutions , it really helped me tackle the issue

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                  Re: King Canada lathe model no. KWL-1218VS

                  Leo:

                  "If I had to do the repair, I would’ve made a new ring for the broken one and replaced the washer plate for a rectangular plate."

                  Fabricating a ring wasn't possible in this old codger's hands and the u-bolt solution had it fixed in an hour. I am more than happy!

                  If anyone's interested here's the '67 Delta Rockwell manual with pic and schematic of tailstock u-bolt clamp that I got idea from. It doesn't seem to be a design that's carried on so I do wonder re longevity.
                  vintagemachinery.org/pubs/698/6850.pdf

                  Doug

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