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    A lot of trees were harmed to realize this project.
    https://vimeo.com/307577053?utm_sour...c34c-587786189

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    Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

    HOLEY MOLEY

    Noel
    "Being so impressed with the beauty of nature, I never cease to be amazed at how the
    'touch of the human hand' can transform it into another kind of beauty that is so uniquely human.
    "
    John Snow, Outdoorsman and Retired Teacher

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      Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

      I guess the standards or spec's or "whatever" for wood frame structure heights have really changed over the last few years. My concern would be fire, especially if the wood "materials" are fabricated instead of solid.

      I had a conversation with an Ottawa fire chief many years ago and we discussed how dangerous various building materials are. In his opinion, solid wood was the safest due to the time it takes to burn as well as the fact that it has no glues or other accelerants (sp) in it. He didn't see much difference between manufactured wood products and steel other than (as I recall) he thought that wood gave a bit more warning before it collapsed and steel wouldn't burn, but in a house fire all the "other" stuff would burn so hot that the steel studs would melt and collapse. That was 10-12 years ago so things may have changed by now.
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        Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

        There are quite a few 2 and 3 storey structures like or similar to this structure in downtown Edmonton Vancouver and Toronto.If I remember correctly there was an old building section that was part of the old Eaton's Annex which was post and beam. We all go in them and really never look up. Chainways store on St. Clair and Silverthorn was post and beam as was Dobson's Butchers in the same block.
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          Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

          Originally posted by John Bartley View Post
          I guess the standards or spec's or "whatever" for wood frame structure heights have really changed over the last few years. My concern would be fire, especially if the wood "materials" are fabricated instead of solid.

          I had a conversation with an Ottawa fire chief many years ago and we discussed how dangerous various building materials are. In his opinion, solid wood was the safest due to the time it takes to burn as well as the fact that it has no glues or other accelerants (sp) in it. He didn't see much difference between manufactured wood products and steel other than (as I recall) he thought that wood gave a bit more warning before it collapsed and steel wouldn't burn, but in a house fire all the "other" stuff would burn so hot that the steel studs would melt and collapse. That was 10-12 years ago so things may have changed by now.
          look at it this way,a timber is like a large block of fire wood,try to start a large pice of fire wood on fire with a match,or even a torch.wont happen,you need kindling,accelerants,or both.sticks are kindling
          stick built houses are built of accelerants,and kindling.
          so what poses the greatest fire hazard,the timber built,or the stock built?

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            Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

            So at what point do you no longer call it a timber frame and instead call it a forest frame?

            First thing I thought was about fire safety with that building. I know what ya guys mean about a solid piece of wood without glue not burning easily. In my area the fire department wanted all the green 911 address signs to be blue if a house was built with the modern floor joists made out of 2x3s and chipboard. The reason being is it takes about 45 min for regular 2x8s to burn through and collapse a house while these new ones only take 5 min! Gee that wouldn't raise your insurance would it?

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              Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

              Here is another interesting timber framed commercial building from sweden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlplalGNfFM
              - Manberdo

              www.manberdo.com

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                Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

                Here's another great example, the Richmond Oval built for the 2010 Olympics. https://structurecraft.com/projects/...d-olympic-oval


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                  Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

                  Originally posted by Doug G View Post
                  Here's another great example, the Richmond Oval built for the 2010 Olympics. https://structurecraft.com/projects/...d-olympic-oval

                  That website is fascinating! Some really interesting information on the design & construction of that roof structure

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                    Re: 200,000 sq foot timberframe

                    They say they have installed the last panel in the Atlanta project.
                    https://structurecraft.com/projects/...2df8-587786189

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