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    Hi I am making my first bed and i was wondering about these bedlocks. These seem very solid but I cannot figure out how to install them in the head and foot board. https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop...s?item=01S0201

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    I have these bed hooks already https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop...s?item=01S0207

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    I am thinking I can slot the side boards to add the bed hooks and run bolts or pins thru the bed hooks. Do the bed locks get mortised into a deep groove or does the flat plate get mortised and the deep part with the pins lay against the inside of the leg. thank you this has been a head scratcher for me.
    Last edited by 8ntractor; 10-18-2020, 09:32 AM.
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    Re: bed locks

    We used to make a lot of beds, and this is the hardware we used;

    - used mostly with Danish style modern - https://www.rockler.com/5-surface-mo...-rail-brackets


    - used on higher end products - https://www.rockler.com/heavy-duty-w...ck-select-size


    - used on traditional or reproduction beds - https://www.rockler.com/bed-rail-hooks


    These are from the states, I used to buy this hardware from Berenson or Summerhill, many years ago.
    I don't make as much furniture now, (more into kitchens and built-in millwork) but I would think you could source this in Canada.

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    • #3

      Re: bed locks

      Found some at Richelieu,

      https://www.richelieu.com/ca/en/search?s=bed+hardware

      https://www.richelieu.com/ca/en/cate...s=bed+hardware
      https://www.richelieu.com/ca/en/cate...76/sku-625052G

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        Re: bed locks



        I've used the second photo style hardware for a few bed frames with good results .
        Last edited by stotto; 10-18-2020, 09:45 AM.
        http://www.woodmonkey.ca

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          Re: bed locks

          Thank you all very much I already have the bed hooks so I was wanting to use the mating bed locks. I could use the pins free style shows in the third picture and skip the bedlocks.. I did have a bed split the wood where the pin was and had to repair it several years ago. This bed is being made out of cedar so I am afraid on using the pin method.thank you for the other suggestions. I have to place an order with LV for some other items they have the style you have suggested but with cedar bed I do not know if the wood will be strong enough for just screws or just pins.LV does have the other suggested models they are quite a bit less expensive. I am curious as to how the heavy steel bedlocks from LV work though.thank you again has anyone used the bedlocks from the first post
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          • #6

            Re: bed locks

            The description of your bedlocks on the LV website indicates they fit into a 3/8" mortise.

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              Re: bed locks

              Originally posted by 8ntractor View Post
              Thank you all very much I already have the bed hooks so I was wanting to use the mating bed locks. I could use the pins free style shows in the third picture and skip the bedlocks.. I did have a bed split the wood where the pin was and had to repair it several years ago. This bed is being made out of cedar so I am afraid on using the pin method.thank you for the other suggestions. I have to place an order with LV for some other items they have the style you have suggested but with cedar bed I do not know if the wood will be strong enough for just screws or just pins.LV does have the other suggested models they are quite a bit less expensive. I am curious as to how the heavy steel bedlocks from LV work though.thank you again has anyone used the bedlocks from the first post
              Cedar might be a problem with any hardware you use. The fasteners will tend to pull out, as the wood is very soft.

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                Re: bed locks

                thank you I agree that the cedar is going to need better hardware that is why I thought the steel bedlocks would be better. I assumed the portion with the pins is in a deep 3/8" wide mortise and the face plate would be in a shallow mortise to make it flush. that seems like it would be very strong. The plate used on it is quite heavy duty. I will order them and try it I think that will work I just wanted to make sure the way the detail page reads confused me. not a difficult thing to do!
                I keep reading about using a up spiral bit for deep mortises is a standard straight bit ok if I take it easy? I already own it. I just bought my first plunge router. I have been using the drill and chisel method until now but was never great at it.
                Last edited by 8ntractor; 10-18-2020, 12:24 PM.

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                • #9

                  Re: bed locks

                  The good news is the mortises don't need to be pretty as they are not structural (as with a M&T joint). I would also consider gluing large hardwood dowels into the cedar where the hardware screws need to go.
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                  • #10

                    Re: bed locks

                    . I would also consider gluing large hardwood dowels into the cedar where the hardware screws need to go.
                    that is a great idea thank you I will do that

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