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    Default Briar Root Burl

    I have this Briar Root Burl 10" semi round
    I'm deciding weather to make 2 bowls by slicing It In half
    or use the whole burl for a vase or a deeper bowl.

    Here's a question, where do I make the cut?
    And whats best mounting procedure ?

    here's a few pics

    Thanks IA .......Dan
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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    I'm thinking I should cut It right through the center of the tree branch

    Here's one more I have
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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    The first one looks like a one vase burl to me; the second I would cut like you said and make two bowls.

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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Dan,
    I don't think the burl wants to be cut... it's looks like it's shooting you the finger..LOL., Good luck, ultimately, the decision will be over in less than one minute...

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    We are looking at just one burl I think, right ??
    The second and third picture show the flat area where the tree is cut off ??
    And the last picture is the taproot sticking up ??
    The first picture must be the one side, it's kind of hard to tell exactly what you have and any folds or the telltale texture of the bark that might give a better picture of what's underneath.
    If this is all true in what I think I see, I'd think a closed form or hollow form would give you the most of what's in there, even if there would be openings when hollowing it out.
    Of course you can cut it in two halves and make two bowls, but I don't feel that's the best you can do with it, but again it's very hard to tell and even holding it it might not be easy to decide, but you've got the ball, so.......



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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    I think he's talking about two different burls there, Leo: the first three pix are one burl and the 4th another. At least that's the way I read it.

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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Gosh - it would make a very nice smoking pipe! I have made two pipes so far and despite it being a lot of work, the results were quite acceptable. I even smoke it. I have made desk pen bases and a round clock face from briar burls but would just LOVE to see a bowl. Good luck

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    Daner . X-ray vision would be nice to have to see whats inside . I'm thinking its up to you where and when , should be exciting what ever you do .
    "Control, control , you must learn control ". Yoda

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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Dan, I would do a natchural edge hollow form with voids.
    Norm

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    Thanks guys...there are 2 burls here, The last pic Is the 2nd burl with the trunk.
    I got some farm stuff to do here this am...And after that I'm going to get 1 burl on the lathe,And see what I can make from It......I will snap some pics as I go along

    Dan
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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    The first Burl Is on the lathe
    Its not going too bad except for the dry cracks
    I'm not sure just how deep they go
    The big crack Is not showing on the Inside,So I think I'm going to take some more off the outside shape
    I'm also wondering If I should try to fill that cracked area with some sawdust and CA (If It goes too deep) Or just try to turn It out.

    One thing for sure this burl Is real dry

    Comments or sugestions are welcome

    ps: the last pic show the cracks that I'm concerned about

    Daner
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    Its not turning out as go0d as I thought It would

    My natural edge Is off

    Can I torch the edge?
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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Dan you could get some thicker CA to prevent those cracks to open up, I wouldn't try to put saw dust in them, they will show no matter what, and the saw dust will likely prevent the Ca to fill it properly, so you end up with air pockets in the glue-line.

    Oops, hadn't seen the second post

    Oh I see you have turned the edge away in the next post, why ??, probably like I've done it a time or two, too late by the time it sinks in ;-((
    You still want the natural edge, not going to be easy, you have to cut somehow a more jagged edge and then you could try to burn some away, so it looks like an natural edge (it wont I think, but try anyway).
    You happen to have some slit cutters you can mount in a drill ??, bandsaw could do do some also.

    Just thinking here, what about a rough chainsaw cut ?? I've left some pieces with the chainsaw cuts showing on the edge/rim.

    I see a nice smooth curve on the outside and not too bad on the inside either, you should be able to sand the ridges out, just start with good coarse sandpaper, 60 or 80 gritt and keep the speed down on the sandpaper and the bowl, or you will get too much heat and caseharden the wood, good chance for heat checks also if you go to fast or too fine paper.

    I'll add a couple of picture that show how I did some burls, just to give you some ideas, they are not the best, but it might help to start the imagination
    Burl shaping.jpg Burl shaping1.jpg burl shaping 2.jpg Burl shaping 3.jpg Burl shaping4.jpg

    Have fun and take care
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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Thanks Leo , And your right about me forgetting about the edge........I was thinking I was doing a good thing,till I stopped the lathe and 1/2 the edge was gone

    Anyway Its wrapped up In the shop ,And I'm going down there to get some more shape to the bottom
    And to try to make the edged look rustic a bit

    Thanks for those pictures,It gives me a better prespective of what the outcome should look like

    I'm turning this right to the finish
    Dan From Rockwood ,Ont.

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    Daner .to remake a natural edge I think will be a very challenging and time consuming and a practice piece of the same wood to get the match right , DAMHIK.
    "Control, control , you must learn control ". Yoda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapleview View Post
    Daner .to remake a natural edge I think will be a very challenging and time consuming and a practice piece of the same wood to get the match right , DAMHIK.
    Hi Randy....Your right, I do have 1 more of these Burls
    I'm now considering this to be more of a learning experience for me.
    I realize a few bad things i have done so far.
    The next one I will cut In 1/2 and make 2 from the 1
    But In the meen time I'm going to try to make this one look not too bad to the lathe I gooooooo
    Dan From Rockwood ,Ont.

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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Looks like I'm finished this burl
    Turned out to be 7"wide-6"tall
    Sanded to 1000
    1 coat of Tung Poly
    Cut the edge with a saw and a file

    Thanks for looking
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    Nice save! But in reality that is just part of the process.
    Grillzy

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    Default Re: Briar Root Burl

    Quote Originally Posted by Daner View Post
    Looks like I'm finished this burl
    Turned out to be 7"wide-6"tall
    Sanded to 1000
    1 coat of Tung Poly
    Cut the edge with a saw and a file

    Thanks for looking
    And a new lesson and more experience under your belt, it certainly looks better, though still a little too even on the one part of the rim, yes just IMO .
    No matter what, I think you did a very good job Dan, it has been only a very short time since you started turning, and here you are turning a closed form, thet certainly calls for a

    Have fun and take care
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    Good job. A lot of projects will go like this, but it's the end product that counts.

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